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Old 08-03-2009, 01:40 PM
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I have a 31/2 year male neutered Doberman. We have been having some behavior issues with him lately. He has been biting. He bit a friend of mine and today I got bit. Back in Feb. this year he had to have a surgery b/c he had an ulcer that had eaten a hole in his intestine. He was hospitalized for a week and was not able to eat they kept him on fluids. I don't know if he was miss treated but he didn't come back the same dog. I have never had a problem with him being aggressive. I don't know what to do at this point. We have him on the electric fence and he responds well to that and I just purchased a remote trainer and a muzzle b/c we are going to the beach in sept. We are going with all our family and I need to be sure he will behave.

I know alot of people don't care for this type training and really don't want to hear their opinions. I feel this will work for him and would like advice from others that use it. I have been on this forum before and I am trying to give all the info that I can.

What could be the underlying issue with him biting? He has done it just with someone walking up the steps and then to me with food. I had put something down for him and was helping him get it out of the corner with my foot and he snapped. Now I think he might have thought it was the other dog b/c they dont like to share but wouldn't he have known it was me that he was biting? It makes me feel real uncomfortable with him now. I love this dog like a child and will not get rid of him unless I have no other choice. Do you think with the remote collar that I can become the pack leader in his eyes? How do you train a dog not to bite??? I let him know it wasn't ok. I grabbed him by the snout and said NO! and then made him go lay down. With his food he has never been aggressive with me only with the other dog. Which to me is understandable but I try to avoid it and give their food in separte bowls. I really just don't know what to do. Any help will be appreciated. I am sorry if I rambled. If you need any other info let me know. You can email me directly at and I will receive it on my phone immediately.

If you are not willing to help and just want to tell me what I am doing wrong don't even bother. I come to this site for help not criticism. Thanks

I hope everyone has a good day.

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I have a 31/2 year male neutered Doberman. We have been having some behavior issues with him lately. He has been biting. He bit a friend of mine and today I got bit. Back in Feb. this year he had to have a surgery b/c he had an ulcer that had eaten a hole in his intestine. He was hospitalized for a week and was not able to eat they kept him on fluids. I don't know if he was miss treated but he didn't come back the same dog. I have never had a problem with him being aggressive. I don't know what to do at this point. We have him on the electric fence and he responds well to that and I just purchased a remote trainer and a muzzle b/c we are going to the beach in sept. We are going with all our family and I need to be sure he will behave.

I know alot of people don't care for this type training and really don't want to hear their opinions. I feel this will work for him and would like advice from others that use it. I have been on this forum before and I am trying to give all the info that I can.

What could be the underlying issue with him biting? He has done it just with someone walking up the steps and then to me with food. I had put something down for him and was helping him get it out of the corner with my foot and he snapped. Now I think he might have thought it was the other dog b/c they dont like to share but wouldn't he have known it was me that he was biting? It makes me feel real uncomfortable with him now. I love this dog like a child and will not get rid of him unless I have no other choice. Do you think with the remote collar that I can become the pack leader in his eyes? How do you train a dog not to bite??? I let him know it wasn't ok. I grabbed him by the snout and said NO! and then made him go lay down. With his food he has never been aggressive with me only with the other dog. Which to me is understandable but I try to avoid it and give their food in separte bowls. I really just don't know what to do. Any help will be appreciated. I am sorry if I rambled. If you need any other info let me know. You can email me directly at and I will receive it on my phone immediately.

If you are not willing to help and just want to tell me what I am doing wrong don't even bother. I come to this site for help not criticism. Thanks

I hope everyone has a good day.
First off, we are not here to criticize but give advice and different methods if need be...

Your dog SHOULD NOT go to public places if he is biting. Muzzles do not protect 100% it only lessens the bite, but the dog can still attack someone and show aggression. Can you not board him somewhere?

Training collars are not bad but if your dog is fearful this may only add to it. I would consult a professional trainer to figure out why your dog has been biting and how to handle it, if the collar is what is needed the trainer can at least give you steps on how to properly use it. Grabbing his snout and saying NO I don't think will teach him anything but add to his fear.

Has he been showing this behavior since bringing him back from the vet? Could he be in pain? I have learned that behavioral issues can be due to a medical issue. Maybe the surgery had some complications? Has your vet been made aware of his behavioral change since the SX?

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I was just getting it out in the open to let the ones that do nothing but criticize that I wasn't interested in hearing it. I have been on here before and received alot of good advice but just dont like putting up with the ones that try to find what you did wrong in the sitiuation or that tell you that you are to blame. Just coming here for help.

After his surgery he went back for a check and was given a clean bill of health. I have no problem taking him and getting a second opinion. As far as grabing him by the snout and saying no. What else was I supposed to do. Look at him. I had just got bit and didn't know what to do. How often does a pet owner get bit by their own dog? I haven't ever been bit by my dog. SO i guess I wouldn't know how to handle that situation. Instead of telling me how it didn't help maybe telling what I should have done would be more helpful. Just saying I will definately have him checked again and find out if there is anything health or pain wise. But until then I would like to trouble shoot to see if anyone else might be able to tell me what they think might being going on.

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I was just getting it out in the open to let the ones that do nothing but criticize that I wasn't interested in hearing it. I have been on here before and received alot of good advice but just dont like putting up with the ones that try to find what you did wrong in the sitiuation or that tell you that you are to blame. Just coming here for help.

After his surgery he went back for a check and was given a clean bill of health. I have no problem taking him and getting a second opinion. As far as grabing him by the snout and saying no. What else was I supposed to do. Look at him. I had just got bit and didn't know what to do. How often does a pet owner get bit by their own dog? I haven't ever been bit by my dog. SO i guess I wouldn't know how to handle that situation. Instead of telling me how it didn't help maybe telling what I should have done would be more helpful. Just saying I will definately have him checked again and find out if there is anything health or pain wise. But until then I would like to trouble shoot to see if anyone else might be able to tell me what they think might being going on.

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In order to tell you what you should have done I have to tell what you did wrong. DO NOT grab the snout and get angry at the dog, this does not help. Instead simply say OUCH very loudly. If his bowl gets into a corner let it be, he will either get it out or give up and walk away or even sit back looking at you for help, don't put your shoe in his face tho.

I think you are at the point where you need a vet or trainer to step in and guide you.

Have you told your vet about the behavioral change since the surgery?
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Iam unsure if you want us to help you or not...we are not going to critisize you, but we have to talk about your methods. Theres no way we can help you unless we can explain why your methods aren't working.

Stop yourself now. If a method isn't working, then it isn't working. If you are correcting your dog more than twice, it is ineffective, for whatever reason. A correction that takes more than twice is either nagging (useless) or abuse. Just an FYI, you need to know that if you are going to use corrections for anything.

Paws is spot on. You are scaring him and adding to his anxiety. Or his enviroment scares him.

You can't fix aggression with aggression.

99% of aggression is fear based. You need to figure out your dogs triggers and desensitize him to those triggers (we can walk you through that)....but if you are yelling, striking, correcting, or stimming (ecollar)the dog, you are making the behavior worse. You are only confirming in his mind that you are scary and he needs to protect himself (or guard his stuff) from you.


You need to hire a behaviorist. Iam removing your email from your post, because I don't think this is an internet remedy. You need to hire a proffesional.

We can help you if your open to it with som' of the exercises, but you have to stop this "don't critize me" stuff...it makes you sound hostile.



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ok real fast i am not a trainer. BUT i did own dobes and they are not a breed in my OP that respond well with aggressive response to a neg thing that they do. Next i agree it may be time to ask for prof help. When me and my dobe V went through training i did nothing but positive training. You can work through this. when he snaped at you instead of grabing his snout say ouch and act like it REALLY hurt. when he behaves well TRAET TREAT TREAT. we had a GSD in our last calss with my bloodhound that was just rotton but after 8 weeks of positive reenforcement he was 10x better and would not snap at anyone. i am new here but from what i have read there are some great people here. Keep in mind that all breeds have thier own personality and the dobe is a smart dog they learn fast what is right and wrong. good luck
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