(Desperately seeking help) Stray puppy not adapting to pack

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Old 02-22-2018, 02:56 PM
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(Desperately seeking help) Stray puppy not adapting to pack

hi,
I am pretty desperate and at my wits end which means a breath away from the shelter... an option I am hoping to avoid.

Last summer while on vacation abroad i rescued a puppy from a near-car accident. my guess is she was about 2 months old, and still did not know how to chew. As i had to do her paperwork to get her home, i left her in a "refuge" where she was (unbeknown to me) cast amid 200 other stray dogs ; they were fed regularly but that was all. She thus arrived home at 3,5 months old without ANY mothering or any notion of pack rules... she only learnt the street rule. Fight or flight, in her case FIGHT!!!

to make a long story short, at home I have 5 other dogs ages 6-14. THEY all accepted her... SHE is quite a bully and does not accept pack etiquette -- she has taken turns attacking different dogs. some days she is fine, other days she attacks, for no apparent reason (she is never provoked). she began by attacking the weakest, now she has focused her attention on the pack leader who is 4 times her size, 14 years old, but has the handicap of missing a hind leg so she has limited mobility. 2 days ago she lunged at the older dog and a viscious fight started -- i stepped in to stop the puppy, and resulted in a broken finger and bad bite.

i have been working with a trainer, the vet, a behavior specialist... with me (and humans in general) she is fantastic. she has bonded with me, we do training exercises, obediance work, lots of outings (she is high energy) etc and she is fantastic. the problem is she will not submit to pack hierarchy, and as a result i have to keep the dogs separate and monitor each and every dog.

I am at my wits end... I love her immensely and feel sick at the idea she will go to a kennel, AND it might just make things worse for her but she is becoming a liability, to me, to my son, to the other dogs who since the last fight are all very anxious

does anyone know how to approach this problem? I thought of asking the vet for some kind of medical support to "calm" her (make her relax/less reactive) but i don't know if such a thing exists or if it really helps... her basic perspective of other dogs (at home) is "i'll kill you before you even think about killing me" -- even when there is absolutely no need!!

at the park/in public spaces she is mostly fine... if she meets a particularly submissive dog she will play-bullly him, but mostly she just plays with other dogs. the problem is at home...

help, anyone??

thank you

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Old 02-22-2018, 03:31 PM
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I dont really have any good advice for you but be aware of a couple of things.
Often when a new dog is brought in it upsets the hierarchy. New dog has to find its place in the scheme of things. Some dogs just naturally want to be higher up the ladder. When its females it can actually be worse than males.
There are alot of dogs that dont do well with members of the same sex.
I'll tell you what though....you definately have my respect. That many dogs in one house is no easy thing! My sister had 5 at one time, dont know how she did it.
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That's a lot of adjusting for one pup. No advice as such, but I wonder if it's all too much for her? She has been through a lot and might need a less stressful environment.


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What is in best interests of all dogs - do that. Hes am adolescent coming into adulthood. Aggression ability is going to increase in this stage as adulthood prime. Your 3 legged dog is seen as weak so hitting her. She maybe your idea of alpha. But this is a dogs perspective 3 legs = sick.
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What is in best interests of all dogs - do that. Hes am adolescent coming into adulthood. Aggression ability is going to increase in this stage as adulthood prime. Your 3 legged dog is seen as weak so hitting her. She maybe your idea of alpha. But this is a dogs perspective 3 legs = sick.
Thank you all for your input.

In all honesty I think the best interest of the majority is to part with her. i kow this will bring back serenity and a better atmosphere at home, and less stress for me and my son (11). He had to go with me to the ER after the fight and has been very worried about me since then... he is also very attached to the puppy (as am i) so doesn't want me to give her away. we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.... i think that what is holding me back is that the shelters here are PACKED and she will lose visibility, not to mention that this will make her even more aggressive...

I have found one option which is a boarding facility with only 8 stalls, each dog has it's own indoor/outdoor space, and the owner is a licensed dog-trainer. She agreed to board the puppy AND train her (for a monthly fee) in the hopes that we can eventually rehome her as a single family dog...

should i do this? Objectively, it seems like the best option, but i feel like i am "throwing her to the wolves" and it's heartbreaking as she trusted me... hence i keep holding out hope that there is "one last thing" i can try....
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