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Old 01-11-2019, 05:45 AM
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I have an almost 4 month old rescue pup (mixed breed). She’s an absolute angel who has adapted to our house very well and fast with the exception of one thing.. crate training. We have had her for about 5 weeks now and she’s slept through the night (midnight-6am) twice. She is put in her crate around midnight every night and usually wakes up barking between 4-4:30am and does not stop. We know now it is not a hunger or bathroom bark, as we have tried feeding her/letting her out when she starts barking and she continues. She also goes outside right before bed (11:30-12) and doesn’t drink anything after.

Her crate is in our kitchen, right next to our older dog’s who sleeps in hers voluntarily every night. There is a sheet over it and the room is completely dark and quiet. The biggest problem is that I have to be downstairs to leave for work by 6am, so even if she is barking for 2 hours straight since 4, I have to go down to let her out and feed her by 6, so she thinks she’s being rewarded. There’s no way around this, though, since I need to leave for work and I think that’s why she continues to do it.

Any advice to keep her calm and quiet in her crate through the night is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance
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You're right, if she's being let out after barking, she's learned it work and in her mind she barks when she's ready to be let out and eventually gets let out.

You say that she still barks after being fed/let go to the bathroom. Does that mean you got up, fed/let her go out, and then put her back in?

Do you have any inclinations on why she's barking?

If she's being put in at midnight, that's about 4 hours sleeping in the crate before she barks. How long does she stay in the crate during the day? Is it possible she's just never expected to stay in the crate that long except at night?

How long is she left alone during the day? What kind of exercise/enrichment does she get?
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I use Kongs stuffed with frozen canned food and gave them one every time they go into their crates. You could try giving her one in the morning and it may keep her occupied and not barking if she does not have to go pee.


Two of my dogs are crated at night and I let them out early in the morning (around six) and when they come back in I give them a Kong until they are ready to go outside again when it get light out.
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When your pup barks at four in the morning does she actually go potty outside? If so, maybe she goes potty and then is all awake after that so she barks out of boredom or stress or anxiey or loneliness or whatever.

For me, I know that I sometimes wake up and go to the bathroom at 4 or 5 in the morning(grrr) and then I have a heck of a time going back to sleep. I generally have to occupy my brain for a bit before I can relax enough to fall back asleep, so I watch a bit of TV and then drift off.

Maybe it is similar for your pup? When my pup would wake up in the middle of the night or early morning before I was ready to start my day, I would give her a safe chewie treat to munch on... and then soon she would be zzzzzz.

Maybe let your pup out to try to potty and then give her something safe to chew on to keep her busy and unstressed until she can fall back asleep? Pups crash pretty easily when they are tired out thankfully.
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Your pup will probably need to go out to potty during the night since she is so young. She probably can't hold it from 12 to 6 yet.

Gradually, your puppy will build bladder control and should be able to sleep through the night without needing to go to the bathroom as frequently.

[I]A good rule of thumb is that puppies can usually hold their urine for their age in months plus one, converted to hours. In other words, a 3-month-old puppy can generally go four hours without urinating. So, if you sleep for eight hours, you’ll need to get up once during the night to let your 3-month-old puppy out to pee.[/I]

This came from an online article: https://www.petmd.com/dog/care/your-...te-sleep-guide

Puppies and lack of human sleep...makes me exhausted just thinking about it
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