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Old 09-25-2009, 08:26 PM
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Thanks a lot really... It makes me feel good to know someone cares about my dog and I. Trust me, the advices are a huge help.

So I read up to chapter 2 of Other side of leash book and now I completely understand why my cousin was extremely successful with Strider. So when I came home with my brother, I taught Mother how I do the "come" command which Strider responded correctly to, I had my brother standing still side ways to Strider with three treats in his hands. Strider stayed behind me and very close as usual. My brother tossed the treat as I had instructed twice. Then I took small steps towards my brother, Strider scooting/sliding to stay at my heels until I was in front of my brother. Strider stayed where he was a bit but he came when I patted my thigh. Soon Strider ate the last piece from him then proceeded to sniff at him. My brother was good not to move. He had moved a little and Strider growled a little so he quickly straightened back up. Strider continued to sniff at him until he reached out and touched his head. I quickly told him to scratch his chin instead. Strider relaxed and became positive. TJ then relaxed and Strider didn't growl.

Dad then started coming up the stairs in which I instructed Strider to return to my room.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:25 AM
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Rather than pointing out things to look at , let the dog pick them out himself. Most training focuses on training the dog to ignore things and watch you...with a fearful dog you want to train the dog that its OK to look at things...just not wig out...then you can focus on him watching you...its just an extra step.



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oh "look at that" start out at a distance that the dog is not reacting to a trigger, but is aware of its presence. every time the dog looks in the direction of the trigger and doesn't react, "mark" the behavior...use your marker word/clicker, and reward. once the dog gets this you can add in your cue "look at that" then same thing mark and reward. you can move closer to the trigger in very small increments, and continue. if the dog startst to react, move back to whichever level you were at before the dog started to react, and continue.
exactly.

personally I don't plan on adding a cue, but thats just preference.

heres a vid using a cue Stormy...maybe it helps you understand it better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuV3MOvvyr4

I strongly suggest you pick up "control unleashed" its FILLED with tips and tricks for dogs like this.



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Old 09-26-2009, 10:29 AM
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3 never correct a dog unless you know beyond a shadow of a doubt exactly what the right correction for the behavior is. if you have to use a correction more than 2 times, it isn't working. to continue to use a correction after this point is considered abusive by some.

just wanted to agree agree agree with this...

more than a couple times and your simply annoying the dog (or abusing depending on how severe) they call these tiny corrections "nagging" and eventually the dog will just tune you out...and you'll have to go to harsher corrections...its a cycle.

In the end the behavior is simply surpresssed anyway...not changed.



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Old 09-27-2009, 05:30 PM
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Actually, I'm starting to already get emotionally drained because My parents are screaming and he's barking and they threatened a few times this week to give him back to the previous owner. I'm starting to already give up because no one but my brother who is also being torn by my parents word. It's like just one more reason why I want to leave but finance keeps me here. I mean I just graduated form college mid August and still waiting for my degree in the mail. The loans are going to hit me hard with out support. Yet another fight ensued with me telling mom not to take him from me. Then she goes "You think I'm that mean to do so?" I'm like wtf because not even a few hours ago she was like "ya know maybe this is why the last family had to get rid of him." I'm like the only one who understands how long this will take.

I haven't bought the clicker yet because I'm waiting for my first paycheck to come in at the end of the week.

Because my parents want me to correct him, get mad at him, and don't want to meet me in the middle with him : I've printed out material, I've tried to get dad to read the introduction to one of the books, I'm trying to teach everyone command movements so communication is consistent and trying the treats. Everyone is half assing and not listening to me. It's just, hop on this, fight for that, selfish I want, I want I want! I'm sick of this, all of my life and they don't realize I still haven't forgiven them for my first dog Sam. Never said a word about it. It's not even just about the dog, I'm just want to LEAVE with my dog and live alone! It's just not smart financially to severe my relationships yet.

I've been reduced to trying to keep him occupied, standing in front of him shooing to my room, give him the command to lay down, give him his raw hide and stroking his side to keep him in a comfortable mood. Mom suggested I leave the house for the night, I think she's right.
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ugh...sounds like my mom...except there wasn't even a dog involved!

I know what you mean about having to stick around for financial reasons, I've had to live with ridiculous roommates just to survive...

Personally I would just try to be home as little as possible and spend as much time in my room (with door closed) as I can. I found, at least with my mom, everything ended up in a fight and the best treatment was to ignore her.



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hmm...sounds like a mess...sorry, family crap is such a pain. i don't think that there would be any survivors left if i went and lived with either of my parents again (they're split now, always wished they would when i was growing up...)



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Trust me, I wonder why they are still together. Mom agrees with me on how she survived him lol..

He's still showing a little improvement. He actually almost bit my brother because he came up really quickly to him however. I had to get between that. When I talk to the vet this week, I'm going to talk about what treats I can give him very often. I realize the Biscuit treats aren't suppose to be given more then 4 times in a day so I can't use them for training. I kinda worry about disrupting his appetite cause I have to watch him to make sure he eats his food.

I found a good place to people watch with him today. Really, I'm kinda glad he just has a problem with people and idling cars since I think they are easier to fix then problems with other animals.

Seriously, mom treating him like a child then a dog with her corrective methods isn't helping. And you're right, Crios, suppression... Learned helplessness. I know how it's like getting yelled at, yelling makes me tune out, shut down and isolate myself. My boyfriend says he's going to use me as his thesis paper on my psychology LOL
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Trust me, I wonder why they are still together. Mom agrees with me on how she survived him lol..

He's still showing a little improvement. He actually almost bit my brother because he came up really quickly to him however. I had to get between that. When I talk to the vet this week, I'm going to talk about what treats I can give him very often. I realize the Biscuit treats aren't suppose to be given more then 4 times in a day so I can't use them for training. I kinda worry about disrupting his appetite cause I have to watch him to make sure he eats his food.

I found a good place to people watch with him today. Really, I'm kinda glad he just has a problem with people and idling cars since I think they are easier to fix then problems with other animals.

Seriously, mom treating him like a child then a dog with her corrective methods isn't helping. And you're right, Crios, suppression... Learned helplessness. I know how it's like getting yelled at, yelling makes me tune out, shut down and isolate myself. My boyfriend says he's going to use me as his thesis paper on my psychology LOL
that is really cool, it's good, imo to have a place that you can go to regularly to atleast watch strangers. it must be good for you to get outta the house with him too. (dog's are a great excuse to go for a walk, and duck out of a negative situation)
i also agree about the problem with people thing though i'm not sure what is easiest to fix. you can only manage so many behaviors at once. clover has been really great with our cats, and so far has shown little interest in the local wildlife....

for treats...you can use kibble as a training treat. anything else you give him you need to account for in his daily diet. in the long term...if he puts on extra weight now but learns that people aren't scary, you'll all be happier!



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whats sad is that the more often the dog shuts down the more often they seem to offer it. They just learn to become more and more pathetic.


my parents split when I was 16....I moved out at 15 so I missed most of it. Mine didn't fight tho.

hot dogs are good for training treats...cut 'em up real small. Honestly tho I use just regular kibble 99% of the time.



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