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Old 12-09-2018, 08:01 AM
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Adopted dog suddenly starts to pee at home

Hello there! We are Conrad and Ken, with Conrad the human writing on our behalf.
Ken is a shiba inu who got adopted from a local shelter at a senior age of 11. His previous family dumped him and I adopted him out of there about half a year later, in May 2018.
For a while Ken had been pretty reserved. He did not like to be pet, sometimes howled in the night and did the whole shiba inu demon thing, ran away once. Wouldn't let me trim his nails or clean his ears.
Ken never exhibited the classic abused dog behaviour - he clearly was not afraid of petting (not jumping away, holding the tail down, etc.), just didn't like it and probably didn't consider me worthy enough to allow touching his royal self.

Now, 7 months later, he loves to play with me, lets me scratch his ears, pet him a bit and even rub his belly. He's okay with baths. Clearly, there is some progress! The only thing he can't get over is brushing, where he tries to bite my hand off.

THE ISSUE

What has started happening for about a month now, is that Ken started peeing in the house. Up to now, he's done it 4 times on different occasions.

1) The day he got in from the shelter, I gave him a bath because he was filthy. Directly after that he looked me in the eye and peed on the floor. I told him he was a bad boy and got him out of the house in case he had some unfinished business there. Didn't yell at him and punish, thought it was the rehoming stress.

2) ~3 weeks ago I was brushing him (the one thing he hates, but he's now blowing his coat and it HAD to be done), holding him very tight by the collar. The process is painless - I have checked this brush on other dogs and even myself, he just seems to hate it. After the torture was over, Ken got up and produced a puddle while looking me right in the eye. This time I yelled at him and ignored him for the rest of the day - all his attempts to play or be nice.

While the first two cases are apparently a reaction to stress and bloody revenge, now the weird things begin.

3) ~2 weeks ago we played a lot with him, then I scratched his ears for a long time, we lay down on the carpet and I gave him a hug. He seemed to be okay with it. Then I stand up, go back to whatever I was doing and hear he is peeing right on that carpet.
This time I yelled as well, and ignored him again.

4) Today we were playing again, and he started to do it while we were still playing.
Well, I told him he was a bad boy again, didn't actually yell (but made myself clear that I was unhappy), came to you folks to maybe get some advice. Ken is at the moment all curled up in a ball looking really sad.

OTHER VARIABLES

Despite age, he is in very good health, runs around the apartment like crazy, jumps, doesn't seem to be in any pain. Three months ago the vets didn't find anything wrong with him. The only thing was that he is apparently allergic to chicken, so we changed the food and with that he started to drink more water. The allergy is getting better now.

He's been going for walks 2 times a day, morning and evening. Now that I noticed he was drinking more water, I also take him out at lunch and right before bedtime (midnight-ish).
In all four cases above, he'd been for a walk about 2-3 hours ago, so it wasn't that he couldn't hold it in.

I don't think I started to spend less time with him. Sure, it's not all the time in the world because I work a lot, but earlier he seemed to be okay with it.

This peeing never happens while I am away, it is my behaviour that is triggerring it. Ken is definitely housebroken - he's never had an issue for these 6 months living with me. I understand a dog will respond to stress (the first two cases), but what I really want to understand are these playtime accidents.

How the hell do I react to this correctly? How do I stop it from happening? Why it hasn't been happening before?

I will greatly appreciate any advice y'all got. Of course I want my carpets and floor clean, but what I want most of all is to understand my dog and be buddies.
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Just thought of another thing that could be worth mentioning.
September-October this year I had two of my friends come over for a month, then my mom was at my place for two weeks. They all played with Ken a lot through the day, gave him loads of attention (usually he doesn't get nearly this much). They all love animals so much but can't have their own for different reasons, so they really pampered my doggo-roommate.
Since they left, I've noticed he got much, much more emotional about me coming home. The peeing accidents started about 2 weeks after they'd been away.

Could it be that he's really upset about being alone and not getting loads of attention anymore, and every time he gets loads of it again he gets overexcited?
If so, why didn't he pee all over the place when my friends were around and gave him all of that attention in the first place?
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You might want to read up on excitement urination and submissive urination in dogs.You dont need to yell at your dog - he can hear you extremely well !!!!!
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It is great that Ken hears me perfectly (with all the !!!!!!!!), but as you might see, I'm not the awful abusive owner kind. I sure did yell at him exactly three times, when I was very mad and didn't understand why these things have happened, but am trying to avoid it as much as I can.
Don't exactly understand, why dogs get understanding for their mistakes but people get "!!!!!!".

Now I have read a couple of articles on that, half of which referred to this being something that mostly occurs in puppies and goes by itself with time.
My dog is clearly not a puppy. He showed submissive peeing from the first day, but not the excitement one.
As to the advice, the only pieces I have found in those articles were:
- to play outside (it doesn't exactly exterminate problematic behaviour, just keeps the carpets clean. also not an option for us.)
- if he does it, not show him any discontent and take him out while cleaning it up. (okay, that we'll do)
- to play less exciting games, so he doesn't get excited (???!)
- to avoid putting him through stress (no washing and brushing then? that isn't really possible)
- giving treats while peeing outside the house (will have to do that, but it does seem awkward to suddenly be housebreaking an 11 year old)

Also apparently he isn't supposed to be punished at all and at all demonstrated that this behavior is undesirable.
Have you ever seen or dealt with submissive/excitement peeing in adopted dogs, which has developed over time?
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