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Old 07-22-2019, 08:51 AM
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4 year old housetrained dog suddenly peeing inside

We rescued a wonderful mastiff mix almost 4 months ago, fully housetrained and we have never had any issues with her.

Recently I went away for 2 weeks to go visit family in Sweden and she had a dog walker a few days a week. She seemed to be okay with her. Then I came home and we are now in the process of moving. We are not moving far so we have been gradually moving stuff over to the new condo.

Yesterday we noticed that she had peed on my yoga mat in one of the rooms. We're not sure if we just didn't notice that she needed to go in the morning (I was in the living room thinking she was still asleep) or if she saw herself in a mirror that was on the floor in there and she thought she had to mark territory. We also suspected this could be her not liking the stuff disappearing so we took her to the new condo which she seemed to love. We brought toys and she was running around having fun. Suddenly she pees in the bedroom even though we took her for a walk prior to entering the condo.

I'm thinking either UTI or she's mad at us for this drastic change (most likely). This morning she didn't seem to care that my husband left for work (she normally cries) and she hasn't eaten her breakfast (not super unusual).

Any tips and ideas for making this move smoother? Anyone moved with a dog before, what did you guys do? Thank you!
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:23 AM
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Rule out any health issues first, but if that's ruled out then maybe it is anxiety about things going on around her that are not part of the normal routine and she's nervous about it.

When my sister first moved out with her German Shepherd/Pyranees mix, her dog was apparently very upset and anxious over the new place and when she went to work and he was there by himself he panicked and did everything he could to escape. He tore up door frames to escape the basement and he ripped apart the metal panel front door and chewed up the doorknob. We assumed that it was a separation anxiety issue because he hadn't been left alone before she moved out. He came back to our house for a week or two and then when he went back to her place she took the other dog from home with her so he had some companionship. Then after another few weeks we brought the 2nd dog home. In the process of getting him used to the house he destroyed an awful lot, but eventually he settled.

I think most dogs are not quite so anxious though. Ha

If she's anxious about the move then take it slow and don't leave her alone for very long until you're sure she's not going to panic.

Have you taken her to the new place? I would take her there just for visits so her scent is there. If you have 2 beds for her, you could take one of them to the new place and let her hang out there for a while while you unpack things.

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Old 07-22-2019, 10:36 AM
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I'm thinking either UTI or she's mad at us for this drastic change (most likely).
She is absolutely NOT mad at you for the change. Dogs simply do not work like that. They are not little furry humans and you can't apply human psychology to the dog. Dogs live in the moment and adjust to change WAAAAYYYY faster than humans can. Living with a dog is like living with a little Buddhist monk in that respect!

Here's my ideas:

1) Because you moved I'm going to venture the following, which I see as the most likely hypothesis:

In your old house the dog knew the boundaries of it's "den", namely, the entire inside of the house and in particular close to where she slept.

In the new house she still needs to get her bearings. She doesn't know where the "den" starts and stops. The reason she knew that in the old house is because you taught her (you house-trained her). Now you're expecting her to work it out for herself and she's having some accidents, which means she could use a little guidance.

My advice, therefore, would be to repeat the process of house-training her pretty much as if she were a puppy. It will go quickly because she's been through it before. The problems should clear up in a short time. If you don't remember the steps in house training a puppy then Google is a goldmine.

2) YOU are also very distracted (I would assume) because of the move. Your dog MAY be giving you the signs that she wants to go outside but you may not be picking up on it. Pay close attention to her.

3) Your dog may not want to go outside (yet) because the neighbourhood is new/foreign and scary to her. Take her on LONG walks (2 hours) through the neighbourhood at least 3 times a week for a week or two so she can get grounded, as it were. If she's feeling anxious about what is beyond the front door than this will fix it.

You mentioned that you suspect a medical cause (UIT infection). If that's the case then a quick trip to the vet might be a good idea. This will also give you a chance to introduce yourself and your dog to the new vet. On the surface of it this is not what I would expect but I have no medical knowledge and I think a trip to the vet when you don't know what's going on is always a good idea.

Good luck. Keep us up to date. It's really nice to hear back if things you suggest work or not.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:02 AM
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We haven't fully moved yet (we officially move on Saturday but have been bringing stuff over gradually). The first accident was in our current apartment and the 2nd accident was in the condo. I read that breaking housetraining could be a sign of a UTI. So we'll see. She finally ate her breakfast this morning and had a little bit of water. She also played a little but... I don't know. She seems off.

She is not a dog that will let us know she wants to go out. Or at least not that we have picked up on. We walk her on a very regular schedule and she seems fine with that. This is the first time she has ever peed inside. When we were at the condo we hade just been out with her less than an hour prior to the accident and it was very little that came out. We never had to house train her, she was fully trained when we got her and we just made sure to reward her the first few times she went out so she knew, okay I am still not supposed to pee inside.

I don't have two beds but she has a blanket that she loves to sleep on top of that we can bring over to the new place. She has been there twice. The first time she absolutely hated it and wanted to go home. This time she seemed happy. We brought some toys and she had a lot of fun playing with us there.

We're also in the middle of a heatwave so she might also be dehydrated... I don't know. I wish they could talk. I'm going to keep a close eye on her and see. If she doesn't improve or get worse I will definitely call the vet. She's just not herself today.
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She seems off.
With the limited medical knowledge I have "she seems off" means "go to the vet". If your husband suddenly started wetting the bed you'd tell him to go see his doctor, right?

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She is not a dog that will let us know she wants to go out.
This is beyond my realm of experience. I've never had a dog that didn't have *some* way to indicate that it was time. My current dog comes and sits and stares at me until I glance at him and then he barks (just once). It's the only time the dog barks in the house.

If I ignore it he will do that over and over until I take him out. We didn't condition HIM to go outside, he conditioned US to take him outside....

He's a Poodle... what can you expect.

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Or at least not that we have picked up on.
There's the key, right there. I would be willing to bet that he's telling you but you're not "seeing" it.

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We walk her on a very regular schedule and she seems fine with that. This is the first time she has ever peed inside. When we were at the condo we hade just been out with her less than an hour prior to the accident and it was very little that came out. We never had to house train her, she was fully trained when we got her and we just made sure to reward her the first few times she went out so she knew, okay I am still not supposed to pee inside.

I don't have two beds but she has a blanket that she loves to sleep on top of that we can bring over to the new place. She has been there twice. The first time she absolutely hated it and wanted to go home. This time she seemed happy. We brought some toys and she had a lot of fun playing with us there.

We're also in the middle of a heatwave so she might also be dehydrated... I don't know. I wish they could talk. I'm going to keep a close eye on her and see. If she doesn't improve or get worse I will definitely call the vet. She's just not herself today.
Well.... it sounds like your dog is in good hands. Maybe the move is related (anxiety related to disruption of routine?) but one thing I'm very confident about is that the dog isn't mad at you.
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I agree with others. If he's not eating normally and doesn't behave the same way when dad leaves, this could be a medical issue. I'd check with the vet first.

If you rule out health concerns, my guess is that the peeing and lethargy/ lack of appetite are actually unrelated.

Dogs don't pee in their home (den) but your dog doesn't know that your new condo is his new home. It means you'll have to do a little bit of re house training when you get him there until he understands that the new place is also his home. As far as the yoga mat in your house goes, is it possible you missed it when you got back from your trip? Maybe he needed to go out when you weren't there and didn't have any other choice?

As far as the lack of eating or caring that dad has left goes, it may be that he's too hot. You did say there was a heat wave. I know I don't like to eat much when I'm hot. Or it could be an upset tummy from anxiety about everything being packed up and moved around.
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