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Old 03-03-2014, 04:15 AM
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She was from a hoarder's home. Catahoula Rescue Illinois drove a van to Kansas and tried to capture as many houlas as they could, it was heartbreaking. They took Addison bec. she wagged her little tail, even tho they thought she wouldn't survive the trip. Here is a link to the pictures of THE WONDERFUL KANSAS RESCUE BY CATAHOULA RESCUE ILLINOIS. AMAZING DOGS! ADDISON is in the middle of the page/album in a cage.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9860720&type=3
is this the one? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:04 PM
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Crazy, Yep, that's it! SHE IS SWEETPEA before we renamed her.
They could only take 8 out of the 40, and the ASPCA local hopefully captured the other ones. Addison was chosen as she was more than "catchable" (in the middle of the pictures of cages, black split face) They weren't going to take her but she wagged her tail at them, believe it or not! Our little lionheart!
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Crazy, Yep, that's it! SHE IS SWEETPEA before we renamed her.
They could only take 8 out of the 40, and the ASPCA local hopefully captured the other ones. Addison was chosen as she was more than "catchable" (in the middle of the pictures of cages, black split face) They weren't going to take her but she wagged her tail at them, believe it or not! Our little lionheart!
So cute she looks so sad lying there glad they decided to take her she is georgeous!
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:43 PM
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I dunno. We are talking about people who happily live in mounds of trash and human / animal waste, eat decaying and rancid food and relieve themselves in sandwich bags and bottles rather than admit that they have a hoarding problem. Take a hoarder who is also a self-imagined 'animal lover' who literally does live for their animals (however horrifically the pets live) and try to break it to them that they are slowly torturing their 'children' to death... this is how sick they can get. I've seen Hoarders episodes where some lady was weeping uncontrollably over a mummified cat. The horror that dawned on her as animal control officers explained what she had done to her 'children' was really wrenching. It's easy to see why they opt so overwhelmingly for denial.

Also, I think consideration should be given to the likelihood of reoffense. Someone with homicidal tendencies, sane or not, can't be at large in the general population whether they are mentally incompetent or not. An animal hoarder is fine in the general public (when they're even out there); they are only a threat to any animals that they keep in their house. Take the animals out of their house and you're left with someone who is only harmful to themself. They don't have to be in jail to prevent the violence / cruelty from reoccurring and if they're not criminally responsible... why put them there?
Seen that episode! Yikes!

If there is a lesson that I take from all animal hoarders is to be happy (focus on) with what you've got instead of aquiring more!

Song "Beautiful day" in U2 says:
"What you don't have you don't need it now..."

Its a great song and meaningful...

Hoarders represent some of the most selfish "Pride" of human sins too... "Sloth", "Greed", "Gluttony"...

... all at the cost of lives of the hoarded animals.

Sorry, but mental case or not (still an excuse), "I" (I have a right too to my views whether I agree with others or not) do not have much sympathy for animal hoarders.

Why???

While humans has that 2nd chance to say they are sorry...
AND "live! *again*!"
Many animal hoarders are repeated hoarders... *repeat* so even if you take that animals away, they will do it again, and again, and again!!!

Many of these lost lives (animals) don't!!!
They do not get to *repeat* their lives *again*!

So... even writing here...
"Who" has the voice???

Definitely only humans in this case... only what human says goes... and simply *still* not right!
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Repeat hoarders:

"Because recidivism rates for hoarders are almost 100% for repeat offenders, the only long-term solution for stopping their behavior is to prevent them from owning animals."

- Animal Hoarding Facts | Animal Legal Defense Fund

"The resolution of these cases was often protracted and difficult, and the hoarder frequently resumed the behavior. Sixty percent of the hoarders studied were repeat offenders.

- People Who Hoard Animals | Psychiatric Times


Serial Dog-Hoarder Patricia Ritz Eaten By Starving Wolf-Dogs, Faced Animal Cruelty Charges In Past

Repeat Offender Facing Charges in Hoarding Case | Animal Legal Defense Fund

CFAWR | Animal Cruelty Syndrome

etc. etc. etc...
history repeats itself and the cycle goes on...
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My friends mother is a hoarder but of crap not pets, she was served an eviction notice a month after her husband died. My friend is trying desperately to get her mother to throw stuff out but it's not easy.
Hoarding is a mental illness and there is a serious lack of supports for those suffering mental illness and a whole lot of stigma, it's sad.
I don't know to me it seems kinda sick to not provide help for people but then punish them after the fact.
Will punishing animal hoarders prevent future hoarders? Of course it wont because these people are sick and do not see the suffering they are causing. If anything handing down harsh punishments will prevent family members from alerting authorities to protect their loved ones.
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It is a harsh sentence by standards here in the States. I couldn't say if it's deserved without knowing the details of their situation. I think many hoarders have mental issues and need professional help. That doesn't excuse what they did but it does change the intent and I would think it would mitigate their punishment somewhat. I'm all for harsh punishment for willful cruelty and abuse but I have compassion for those with mental problems that compel them to hoard. It's sad for the hoarders and for the animals that suffer in their care.
I agree^^ and I don't think that most hoarders understand that they arm causing harm to the animals. It's all a very sad situation, especially for the innocent animals.
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It is a harsh sentence by standards here in the States. I couldn't say if it's deserved without knowing the details of their situation. I think many hoarders have mental issues and need professional help. That doesn't excuse what they did but it does change the intent and I would think it would mitigate their punishment somewhat. I'm all for harsh punishment for willful cruelty and abuse but I have compassion for those with mental problems that compel them to hoard. It's sad for the hoarders and for the animals that suffer in their care.
I agree^^ and I don't think that most hoarders understand that they are causing harm to the animals. It's all a very sad situation, especially for the innocent animals.
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