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Old 02-19-2016, 11:36 AM
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Working Out Tummy Issues

My pup Ember has started to have tummy issues. I am quickly becoming overwhelmed and just need to bounce ideas.

Qualifier -
I took her to the vet last week and found no blockages. Just a very slight fever; opted for antibiotics and finished those up on Sunday. Vet wasn't concerned about it being life threatening or anything contagious. Second dog in house is healthy as a horse.

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She is 35lbs and has always had a voracious appetite. She is just over a year old. She is a high energy breed, but a great mix of craziness and chill. When we brought her home we switched her over to our current dog's food, a mix of dry and canned, with dry in the AM and dry+canned in the evening. Dry was Halo's Spots Stew Lamb, and canned was Blue Buffalo "Family Favorites" mostly beef varieties. She was great on that for a few months, then stopped eating the dry in the morning. I started to put water in with the dry and topping it with Blue Buffalo Wilderness toppers and she started eating her morning meal again. The toppers are really expensive for what you get, however, so I just switched to dry+canned+water for both morning and evening meals.

In December when things started getting cold enough to freeze everything, we learned that she has an affinity for eating poo, as she kindly brought some into the house one night and started mindfully gnawing on it while on one of the couches. Since then we've been doing our best with trying to get her to stop, and I started putting a spoonful of canned pumpkin into their food. That seemed to curb the habit for a couple weeks.

About three weeks ago I went to let her out of her crate in the morning and noticed she was very subdued. Alert, just not her normal bouncing-off-the-walls self. Then about an hour later I realized her stomach was growling and gurgling loud enough to be heard across a room. She wouldn't eat her breakfast. I stayed home from work with her to make sure she wasn't going to vomit or have diarrhea, and after about an hour she went to her food bowl and ate. After that the tummy gurgling stopped and she became her normal self again.

Things were fine until a couple days later when she regurgitated her dinner. But she was fine before and after that happened. Two days after that she had another morning of gurgling tummy and refusal to eat. That time she refused her food all day. That scared me, so I took her to the vet, findings detailed above. That night and the next day, I put both dogs on a bland diet of boiled chicken and rice. Which they both loved. On the third day I started to reintroduce her food. She seemed to be fine for the rest of that week. Her tummy seems to gurgle and growl in the mornings until it's time to eat, but it's not loud.

I decided this is probably related to nutrition and something that she's eating is not "doing it" for her, so I'm in the process of switching dry food out to grain free, no soy-wheat-corn, etc. I opted for Nature's Variety Instinct Beef & Lamb. I also put them on a probiotic & enzyme supplement, and a small spoonful of coconut oil in breakfast. No more pumpkin since I add the supplement, though considering putting it back in for breakfast since the supplement is once a day and they get it at dinner. Things seemed to be going smoothly with everyone happy.

Now this morning she pooped in the house - totally my fault, as I had let her out in the morning after she woke up but didn't watch to see what she did, and ended up calling her back inside instead of letting her come to the door when she was ready... she tried to tell me that she needed to go back out, but she just learned that ringing her "potty bells" gets her humans to walk over to the door and let her out, so we are trying to deter her from ringing them every five seconds, as she is doing right now... so I ignored her, and she ran from room to room looking anxious, which I read too late, as I found her in the living room, pooping. It was loose, but not diarrhea. After that her tummy was growling and gurgling again, not loud, enough for me to know she was hungry. But when it came time for breakfast, she wouldn't eat. I let her out and when she came back in she tried to eat, but would just spit it out - and it was all the new kibble.

So now I just don't know what to do next. She really prefers canned food, so I'm thinking of maybe switching to to that. Ideally I would do a raw diet, but I am so nervous about it. I have a huge raw-meat germ phobia. Plus, I travel for work, and when I'm going my husband is on dog duty, so it has to be super convenient. I'm just not sure he'd remember to take on a meal for it to thaw and come to room temp.

Ideas? Have you been in a similar situation? What did you try?
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Sounds like it maybe meat intolerance. You could try a single protein food that your dog has never eaten. My suggestion is turkey because it isn't usually mixed into other meats. The brands I know of are Zignature and Go sensitive and shine. They are both grain free and both had single proteins. Stick with the food and nothing else for at least a month to see if it works. If you give treats make sure they are also single protein and the same as the meat in the food. I went through that with my hound for over a year before I figures it out. The cycle of not eating gurgling and pinging stomach throwing up.
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Thanks, Dawn... as I was writing this I started to wonder if maybe it was the lamb, as that has really been the common variable throughout it all... I'll try switching that out and see how that goes
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Instead of feeding dry one meal and wet the next could you mix half the wet with half the dry for both meals? To me it sounds like she just doesn't like the new food. Of if you aren't feeding wet anymore consider getting a can of tuna, anchovies, or salmon and mixing a spoonful with water to coat the dry food. You really do this with any canned food she likes, but I say fish because it's usually the easiest protein to digest for food allergies.
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Thanks, Dawn... as I was writing this I started to wonder if maybe it was the lamb, as that has really been the common variable throughout it all... I'll try switching that out and see how that goes
Good luck I hope it works for your dog as well as it did for mine. The vets were no help. Just told me to use pepsid. I can't remember if you said she had been to the vet. If not it might be a good idea to have her checked out to make sure
it is nothing more serious.
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Yeah, she's been to the vet - checked out ok. So now just working on the food because I'm sure that's the root cause too. I do feed dry and canned together now, but I'm thinking of getting rid of the dry altogether for her. Hopefully I'll find the right thing soon
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Sounds like a food intolerance to me also. Actually, beef has been found to be at the top of the list along with chicken! Switching to a limited ingredient food that uses a novel protein might help...... Zignature, Wellness, and Canine Caviar, all have these formulas.
Remember though, it takes several weeks to ascertain if this is your problem, and while you are feeding a limited diet food, you have to avoid all other foods/treats! Good luck! I hope your dog's digestive problems get solved!
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Yeah, she's been to the vet - checked out ok. So now just working on the food because I'm sure that's the root cause too. I do feed dry and canned together now, but I'm thinking of getting rid of the dry altogether for her. Hopefully I'll find the right thing soon
I have used two that work for us. Honest kitchen and also fresh pet vital
The vital you can get at petco or petsmart , the 6 lb rolls are the most economic. The honest kitchen I buy the 10 lb box that makes 40 pounds of food once rehydrated. I get it from the company because the mark up in the pet stores is quite high. On the 10 lb box shipping is free.
Freshpet - Vital® Balanced Nutrition Turkey Dog Food Recipe with Peas, Carrots & Brown Rice
Keen Dog Food – Whole Grain Turkey
I can switch back and forth with these without any stomach issues.
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Her symptoms are very similar to my dog that has IBD. It may not be, could be just a food intolerance of some sort. But just keep that in mind if it doesn't resolve after food changes. Chess had major gurgling and weird noises, and didn't want to eat(and normally she's a vacuum). It took over a year to diagnose her, as her symptoms were there but nothing major and tests came back normal.
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I agree with those who think it may well be a food allergy. You need to isolate foods, to try to determine which she is sensitive to. Your Vet should be able to help. We have a neighbor that has a Lab, who was sick for years. The Vet finally put her on a prescription food, she is absolutely a different dog now. Its not inexpensive, but the result is she is one healthy happy dog now.
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