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Old 06-23-2012, 08:26 PM
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We haven't done any bloodwork or imaging related to this problem. We will try the food switch first and see if that solves it. I only spoke with the vet on the phone when she started vomiting the FIRST time (1 month ago). The landscapers had just put down fresh mulch and she had eaten some of it; that seemed to be the most likely and obvious culprit. The vet didn't feel that she needed to be seen, and just instructed to feed chicken and rice. That seemed to resolve the issue. After that, everything was fine until we started the new bag of food.

Also, I completely agree with your assessment of the food quality. She had been thriving on it for months before this though, and we have only just now had a problem. It might be just THIS bag that's the culprit, but I don't want to take the chance with a fresh bag. Better to just do a full switch. I'll keep you updated.
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If she vomits at all, even just once, after this change, please get more diagnostics and not wait it out. IMHO, she's vomiting way too much based on your post for diagnostics to be postponed.
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OK, so she had only chicken and rice for four meals now. No vomiting. She had a small amount of diarrhea yesterday morning and hasn't gone since. So it seems that the diarrhea has run its course. Her appetite is healthy (she attacks the chicken and rice like she's starving) and her energy level appears increased.
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OK, so she had only chicken and rice for four meals now. No vomiting. She had a small amount of diarrhea yesterday morning and hasn't gone since. So it seems that the diarrhea has run its course. Her appetite is healthy (she attacks the chicken and rice like she's starving) and her energy level appears increased.
I would continue with the rice/chicken for several more days before making any small changes. You want to see several days of normal poop... nice logs! It takes some time for the intestines to truly heal.

After that, then you might start introducing a small amount of kibble into her chicken/rice mixture. I'd even soak the kibble in water or the broth from making the chicken. Start with maybe 10% kibble in her meals and work up gradually. If the stools get bad, then either you are going too fast with the introduction, or this kibble is not a good match for her.... or there is something more significant she has that needs diagnostics, as Holly points out.

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Ditto continuing the chicken and rice for a bit and starting to mix in kibble slowly... but PLEASE change the type of Kibble.

But yeah, any more vomiting, diagnostics please.
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Oh yes, I understand. One more vomit and off to the vet we'll go.

No more vomit. Solid stools. We went to Petsmart to return the Blue Buffalo and assess our food options. The teenage cashier (OK she might have been 20) said that the high protein in the Wilderness formula gives some dogs diarrhea and recommended the Basics formula. I have no idea if that was the problem but I noticed that the Wilderness had about 8 percentage points more protein than any of the other puppy foods there. Also I should mention that I completely miscalculated how long she had been eating the BB before. I said 7 months, but she's actually only been on it for 3 1/2 months (I was calculating it based on her age and forgot that she was already 4 months old when we got her...duh, so silly me ). So I suppose 3 1/2 months might still be within the trial window for problems to arise.

Anyway, we had already decided we wanted to try a different brand altogether and went with Castor & Pollux Natural Ultramix. It has lower protein than the BB Wilderness, and I heeded Holly this time and didn't get hung up on the grain content. This one has barley, sorghum and oats. So we'll introduce it in a day or two and see how it goes.
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I've never heard of this. Anyone? I'd be super careful with this, I'm very cautious about small companies, especially unheard of.

As for the cashier, she is 100% correct. That's why I keep saying on here that some of the "best" foods aren't good for some dogs because they are "too rich".

What is the protein source in the new food? May have been good to get a novel protein just in case...
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The protein source is chicken and turkey, which is the same as the old food. It didn't occur to me go with a different protein, but if this food doesn't work out then I will keep that in mind for the next food we try. The only advice I have gotten from my vet foodwise is to stick to chicken or lamb for the protein and to avoid beef. The aren't many lamb-based puppy formulas out there.

Castor & Pollux is rated as a premium food. I checked several different food review sites and it usually came up as 4 or 5 stars. The company was just purchased by Merrick recently, so it should be on par with Merrick formulas. We wanted to go with a brand that Petsmart offers, as it's most convenient for us, and in the same price range as Blue Buffalo. We have some feed stores in the area but would have to travel farther to get to them.
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Speaking as someone who prefers less grains barley and oats don't bother me as much as corn and wheat, so that works.

I'm not sure if its the high protein or the type of protein, for example Orijen has high protein, but by the reports of those who've been feeding it for a while, that wasn't an issue will they changed up some of the original protein for organ meat, and at that point it ended up to rich for some dogs. Either way its kinda one of those learn the hard way things as to whether or not your dog will tolerate it, and where she was already having issues its not worth pushing it.

She's 7months old? If you had to switch off a puppy formula it wouldn't be the end of the world, though certinally trying to stay on one for a bit longer isn't a bad thing.
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She's 8 1/2 months now, though she stills appears to be growing and has some filling out to do, so puppy food is best right now. Visually she's at an ideal weight, but in terms of size she is somewhat small for her breed/age group. Switching to adult food at 1 year seem to be the standard advice on the golden retriever specific sites I've looked on. I've been reading more reviews of the C&P food, and actually several have stated that they switched their dogs to this food from Blue Buffalo because of soft stools and occasional unexplained vomiting/diarrhea, which is pretty much exactly what we've been experiencing. I understand the trial and error aspect of this. Hopefully we won't have to search too long.

C&P has a couple of grain-free options in their adult formulas, so it's a possibility for when she gets older.
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