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Old 05-31-2016, 05:30 AM
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Question Vomiting bile

Hello all,

In the past 4/5 months our 11 yr old dog Sebo (collie x saluki) has started vomiting bile early in the morning. Our vet said his tummy is empty, hence the bile. She didn't think it odd that this is a recent thing - just 'one of those things'.

So, on her advice we've started feeding him a little snack (75g wet food from a sachet), before we go to bed at about 11pm. He has 130g dry food twice a day and maintains a weight of about 25kg (he is bigger than the average collie but because he's arthritic we're vigilant about his weight).

But he's still being sick - maybe once or twice a week - always between 6am and 7am. The amount is between an egg cup and a tea cup....

Should we get a 2nd opinion? Feed him his breakfast at 5am?? Your thoughts and experience would be very much appreciated.

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I'd be getting a second opinion, even if you don't get a better treatment plan hopefully you'd get a better diagnosis than "one of those things".
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It could be a sensitivity to the meat you are feeding. Does his stomach gurgle or make funny noises?
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I'd get a second opinion just to be on the safe side. Once he's cleared medically if it still continues feed him something that's going to take longer to digest like dry kibble or a dry dog biscuit.

My dog will get hunger pukes, like your dog, if I do not feed him right before bed or if I feed him to little right before bed, what I do is feed him a small handful of kibble right before we go to bed. He'll still get hunger pukes ever now and then but can go months without them.
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My dog had the same experience and our vet recommended giving him omprezole (I'm not positive if I spelt that right) it is used to treat acid reflux in humans and should reduce acid in the stomach. I also gave him a hard treat right before bed so his stomach would work hard to break that down compared to the wet food he was getting later in life.

Obviously talk it over with your vet before giving it to your dog, and I would also get a second opinion because, I don't want to scare you, but my dog actually ended up with hystiocytic sarcoma and the vomiting was actually due to that. He passed shortly after and I still am kicking myself because I waited two weeks before seeking out a second opinion. Who knows if I actually got it diagnosed sooner I could have had a little more time with him.
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You mentioned your dog was still sick, vomiting 1-2 x a week... but you didn't say whether or not this is an improvement since you began to feed him a late meal or not. Either way, not 100% curative obviously... but if it DID help at all, an early morning meal would also be a good idea.

Famotidine at bed time also also help with 'empty stomach syndrome'... it's a 20mg tablet here in the US and over the counter... no idea if its available wherever in the world you are where you weigh dogs in kgs.
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hunger puking

Hello all and thank you for your replies. I'm in Hampshire, southern England - we use lbs and kilos interchangeably, sorry! he's about 60lbs.

Sebo is sick less often now - maybe only once or perhaps twice a week. But it's the fact that this came out of nowhere that has me worried. I asked the vet how or if it were possible his metabolism might have changed (with age?) - which got the 'one of those things' response.

He's been having the same two types of food all his adult life - both dry, one kibble, the other a muesli (though actually the latter is now a mature lite version, but the puking is much more recent than the change). That said we've decided to introduce a higher quality (much more expensive!) food (still dry) to see if that helps. We'll give him dry food for his bedtime snack too and cut out the wet.

Re stomach noises - no, that all seems ok - he poos normally too. One thing though, he does eat grass at every opportunity and often smacks his lips / swallows (like he's got reflux almost). He is on Rimadyl (and lots of natural supplements) for his arthritis so we thought it was a pain thing connected with that - but perhaps it's a tummy thing? oh why can't they talk!?

Thanks again for reading and your ideas. I think a 2nd vet's opinion is required.
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