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Old 07-25-2016, 10:17 AM
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Vomiting 2 days in a row, no food change

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Bri has vomited yesterday morning (~9:45am) and today (~5am). Both times it was mostly bile/foam and some bone pieces.
She is fed PMR twice a day (normally 6am during the week and 7:30-8am on weekends and 6pm (during week) and 6-7pm (weekend)) and we're currently on (still in the beginning - protein rotation) pork. She was fed the same since last week Wednesday (country style ribs, so lots of meat, a little bone, but we want to switch to beef this week, when the situation stabilizes).
Otherwise she is not acting strange, she eats with the same appetite, eats grass (she always eats a couple of strains when she's outside) and is eager to play/run around.

Yesterday I thought it might have been hunger, since my husband took her out at 8am (I was still sleeping) and didn't know what to feed her, so he didn't feed her, but didn't tell me either... (yeah, men... ). So when I got up, we went for a walk and when we came back, she first laid on the couch with me, but then got up to vomit in the corner of our living room. Once a little bit of foamy bile, and then some more with more bile and some bone pieces. So when my husband finally asked me if I gave her her breakfast, I thought it was about hunger, I gave her her breakfast and didn't think about it any further.

Today in the morning it was the same thing, first a little amount of bile and then she started gagging again and it was some more bile and bone fragments (obviously, at that time in the morning her gagging woke me up, but I went right over to investigate. She went back to sleep... ). When we got up at 6am, she got her breakfast and ate it with the same appetite as usual.

As far as I know (since I don't have her under 100% observation), she didn't eat anything out of the ordinary, except 3-4 pieces of kibble when we visited a friends house on Saturday and their dog didn't finish it's dinner yet.
But can such a reaction come up with just that little bit of kibble? We visited them the Saturday before as well and same thing happened and Bri was fine?!

I'm not too concerned at this point, she potties normal and eats with the same appetite, but can anyone enlighten me and point me in a direction of what this might be?

Thanks a bunch!

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Old 07-25-2016, 10:42 AM
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Wish I could, but this pup tends to puke up bile periodically between meals. Can't say I've seen any bone fragments tho, it's generally after everything is digested and passed on through. Usually a yellow foamy kind of deal.

Can't hold him up as a poster child for raw feeding - he's got bowel issues anyway, comes with the territory of thyroid issues.

One side effect that I've found - and I don't know if it's just him - is he can't tolerate kibble or other things considered treats. Got a coffee one day at McD's, the lady in the window was swooning over him and gave him a treat - I didn't notice it. Heard him crunching down on something - milk bone. Too late, half of it was gone and he had some diarrhea for a day or two. We have to be careful when going to anyones house, first thing I do is pick up the kibble bowl.

When was the last blood test done on the dog? It's nice to have a baseline before starting raw, then any blood draws after can speak volumes - we didn't have a before, first one ever was done 2 weeks into raw feeding. Might be a good time to have a panel done, just to make sure everything is normal.
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I agree with jagger, a blood panel would probably be a good idea, just to make sure everything is ok. There are also some intestinal parasites that can cause vomiting. And is she drinking the same amount of water? It's definitely important to make sure dogs who have vomited don't get dehydrated.
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I agree a full blood panel is needed. Those bone fragments might also be significant, talk to your Vet. If she is only throwing up bile, she is probably still getting her needed nutrition, again the blood panel will yield that answer too.
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Thanks guys! Yes, it is really only foamy bile, but both times the second time gagging there were some bone fragments in there. Hm...

I guess I'll get an appointment then.

@jagger No, we never had a blood test done yet. Since we've had her 6 months only and as of yet there was no reason to do one.
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Thanks guys! Yes, it is really only foamy bile, but both times the second time gagging there were some bone fragments in there. Hm...

I guess I'll get an appointment then.

@jagger No, we never had a blood test done yet. Since we've had her 6 months only and as of yet there was no reason to do one.
Blood panel is money well spent IMO, if nothing else, peace of mind. If I do get another pup, there will be a complete panel done including T4 carrier just to have a baseline for future issues. Changes are good your dogs' body is still trying to cope with the diet change.
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My guys haven't been on raw very long, but I do notice Levi has hunger pukes if we don't feed him a little snack before bed (which is currently a piece of dehydrated beef lung). Heidi is fine.
I'm thinking that in Levi's case it is probably just an adjustment between the massive amount of kibble he was getting (seriously 3.5 cups just to maintain his weight) and his smaller raw portions.
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Blood panel is money well spent IMO, if nothing else, peace of mind. If I do get another pup, there will be a complete panel done including T4 carrier just to have a baseline for future issues. Changes are good your dogs' body is still trying to cope with the diet change.
That's what I thought as well, especially since she is eating normally (drinking normally as well) and her normal self. And from her stools I can see that she does digest the bones (and obviously has before these two vomit occurrences, since I have been feeding PMR for around a month now, if I recall correctly).
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My guys haven't been on raw very long, but I do notice Levi has hunger pukes if we don't feed him a little snack before bed (which is currently a piece of dehydrated beef lung). Heidi is fine.
I'm thinking that in Levi's case it is probably just an adjustment between the massive amount of kibble he was getting (seriously 3.5 cups just to maintain his weight) and his smaller raw portions.
3.5 cups is a massive amount, right?

I am so, so bad at measuring kibble. I think Lexy gets about 1.5 - 2 cups daily, though she's pretty sedentary and I'm trying to get a chunk of weight off of her.

I always seem to get conflicting opinions about how much to feed...some say I don't feed enough, others say too much. And my head spins.

Anyway, not to derail the thread but it sounds like hunger pukes to me too. Chisum gets them sometimes, almost randomly.
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@PoppyKenna - Insanely massive! His Mastiff friend gets like 3 cups a day. He has a metabolism I'm crazy-jealous of. no matter how much he eats, he ranges between 50-52 pounds. According to the bags they were getting 3-5 cups is recommended, which seems astronomical.

Anyway, off-topic, but yes hunger pukes!
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