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Old 10-11-2017, 07:58 AM
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Is this tree poisonous to dogs?

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A branch from our neighbor's tree fell into the yard. I don't care...I saw it as a bunch of new throwing sticks for the dog. Right before actually playing, I thought I would just check in to see if I could get it accurately identified and see if it's poisonous. Thanks!
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Smile I'd pitch 'em.

Are U in the USA?

compound leaves on trees are not very common, here - 2 species that come to mind immediately are walnuts [several kinds] which YES, are mildly toxic &
can cause mouth irritation & stomach upset / other illness,
& sumac - which comes in poisonous & non-poisonous varieties.

I'd get rid of them, in any case, as sticks aren't safe toys, at all.
Vets across the country see many dogs every day with injuries caused by sticks; they're dangerous in many ways, dogs eat splinters or get splinters in their gums, palate, throat, they run with the stick & hit something, ramming it into soft tissue or impaling themselves or jamming it in their own mouths so they can't get it out...
see Google Images & query "dog hurt by stick", WARNING - some are graphic.

I'd use / buy / find safer toys - solid rubber, solid nylon, an Orbee ball by Planet Dog - things that are too big to swallow, TOOTH & GUM friendly, safe to chew & durable, & that feel good in a dog's mouth.

USED FIREHOSE makes incredibly durable dog-toys; solid rubber or solid synthetics can be punctured, but unlike hollow toys, are very hard to pull apart into pieces that might be swallowed or get caught [jam in the teeth or palate, choke the dog, cause a blockage].

Keeping fetch toys "just for fetch" & taking the toy AWAY every time the dog starts to gnaw them will eventually teach the dog that if s/he tries to chew the toy, the game ends.
U need to be very prompt & very consistent / persistent, but my Akita was a chew-monster as a young dog, & i did teach her a SOFT MOUTH - it took almost 2 solid months of daily practice, but it did sink in.

Dogs are slow to generalize, so don't think Ur dog is being defiant or stoopid or stubborn when they keep trying to chew something U don't want chewed - it's a hard concept to wrap their dog-minds around. Just keep working on it, a drop of water, over & over, wears away stone.

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Old 10-11-2017, 01:37 PM
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I'm in the midwest. I have tried looking up ways of telling poison from non poison sumac. Leaf shape and edges, stems, berries, # of leaves. As far as I can tell, the leaves are oblong with smooth edges, not jagged edges.

The stems are green.

There are ~30 leaves on each branch.

No berries.

Research vs sample is inconclusive because what I have read splits what I found in the sample by 50/50.
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I do not believe they are dangerous because this looks just like the tree Duke one of my huskies keeps eating from and he has done it all week. My trees like this are growing right next to a walnut tree. :-) I don't know if that helps :-)
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I will double check my plant and tree book of the United States for you :-):-) Just in case but Duke is 1Years old and three months I really don't think he would eat something that would make him sick. He has no signs of sickness either completely normal :-):-)
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Arrow Those are Ur dogs; dog-walkers, handlers, trainers, etc, have liability concerns.



no matter what the species - sticks are not "safe" dog-toys.

Ouch: The dangers of sticks as dog toys. - Patricia McConnell
http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/......ks-as-dog-toys
Sep 8, 2014 -
People have been throwing sticks for dogs to retrieve for eons. ....



Six Dangerous Items Dogs Chew - Pets Best
https://www.petsbest.com/blog/danger...ems-dogs-chew/
Dec 7, 2012 -
The danger, though, is that the dog begins to use sticks as toys, & many dogs will begin chewing on the stick. Wood splinters easily when chewed on, & shards can jam into the dog's mouth causing an infection.

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y'all can do whatever U like - Ur dogs, Ur choice. // When a vet tells me that sticks are hazardous to any dog's health, I'm gonna listen.

As a hired proxy, I don't want to drop a grand on emergency surgery for a client's dog because I did not get the stick away from Rover or Fifi fast-enuf, & the client sues me to recover medical costs.

If any of my clients has a dog with a stick-habit, i tell the client that i won't be held responsible if their dog is injured as a result of that obsession, & they sign a quit-claim to that effect - just as others do, whose dog chases cars / bikes / motorcycles / skateboards.
Those are downright-dangerous "hobbies" for a dog, & while i'm happy to help get rid of the habit or at least reduce it, i won't be financially punished if a dog with that habit gets hurt by it.
I can do my level best to prevent it - but i'm not omnipotent. Stuff happens, & sometimes it's bad stuff.

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Its surprising how many plants and tree vegetation are toxic to dogs. We have nandina's (AKA heavenly bamboo) growing around the house, never even thought about them. Then one day I read that the berries, and the leaves to a lesser extent, if ingested by a dog, will turn to cyanide in their digestive tract. Needless to say none of that vegetation is within reach of Samantha, now.
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The only way to acutally know if the plant is safe is to correctly identify exactly what it is. You should be able to take a small branch portion with the leaves and your photos of th tree itself to your local gardening specialty store and have them identity the true for you. Once you know exactly what it is you can then determine if it has any known toxicities.
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The only way to acutally know if the plant is safe is to correctly identify exactly what it is. You should be able to take a small branch portion with the leaves and your photos of th tree itself to your local gardening specialty store and have them identity the true for you. Once you know exactly what it is you can then determine if it has any known toxicities.
Correct, and as I said its really surprising how many 'common' plants are toxic to our dogs. If your puppy is a vegetation muncher, you have your work cut out for you.
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@LDG I was suppose to do this yesterday but I got busy. I looked the tree up for you it's a Sumac and they are not on any list. It's not a walnut I'm guessing anyway because the walnut trees at my house are already dropping walnuts and all the leaves are falling off. When it comes to eating them and chewing on the sticks it's whatever you want to do. I know my dogs love them to chase each other around with and sometimes to destroy the stick LOL :-):-) Now them not being on any list doesn't mean anything I would just watch how he acts when eating them chances are he will probably be okay :-):-)
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