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Old 09-13-2017, 09:43 AM
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I am so sorry! I can only imagine how devastating this is. Did they discuss what other options she had if the surgery did not work?
So the surgeon was very confident that it would work. He has been doing this for over 20 years and was highly recommended to me by a number of dog people, including both of my agility instructors.

He said with her tiny size and young age she shouldn't have any problems at all.

He did say after we pay for the initial surgery, his time regarding this issue would be free afterwards. All check ups have been free. He said if it didn't work for some reason, he would repair it free of charge with another surgery. I think I might have to pay for like anesthesia, pain meds, that sort of thing. But the labor would be free.



So my dilemma is, if it comes to a second surgery, should I do it?

I don't want to waste the $3000 I've already spent, and I do want to fix this issue, it sounds like it's pretty severe already and as she ages it will probably deteriorate into Grade 4 and/or arthritis.

But on the other hand it was a very scary and painful experience for her, and I don't want to traumatize her anymore than she had been the first time. Especially if it's just going to fail again.

I don't know!
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:29 AM
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That is a horrible situation to be in and honestly the only one that can offer you sage advice in that situation is the vet. He sounds really knowledgeable and hopefully her will be able to help lead you to the right decision and maybe an answer on why it didn't work for both knees. Sounds like he is confident in his work considering he offers free labor afterwards. I would consult with the vet. I would probably lean towards a second surgery just because the temporary pain and fear will be nothing compared to the pain of arthritis and a shortened life.

Internet hugs for you though. I know this isn't easy for you at all.
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Old 09-15-2017, 02:04 PM
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My boy, Tucker had 5 knee surgeries at a very early age for luxating patellas. At first it was just one leg. It took 3 surgeries before it held. There are three types of surgery to fix this in dogs before resorting to a bone graft. Then the other knee went out. Two surgeries and no fix with either. Made a trip to a veterinary college. The only fix would have been the bone graft surgery with months of crate rest and physical therapy afterward. Tucker's temperament is such that it would have been impossible.

Tucker will be 14 in January. We adopted him when he was 6 weeks old and weighed only 1.2 pounds. The leg is weak and he does have some pain with it. He is on Metacam daily for pain and inflammation. If he exhibits more pain on some days, I also give him Tramadol. He is a feisty little 6 pound boy, and runs around with the best of them.

We only ever paid for the first knee surgery, the one on his first leg. The other two surgeries on that leg were free. Since the two surgeries failed on the second leg, our vet reimbursed us for the first surgery on it. The second surgery had been done for free.

We were only out about $350 for the five surgeries.

You might want to see an orthopedist veterinarian if the one you are currently seeing is not. All the best to you and your pup.
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Fantastic News!

Good news- I brought her in to be checked by the surgeon and he said her knees felt great and that after the surgery, back pain can affect the hind legs and mimic the gait of a dog with luxating patellas. He started feeling along her back and got to a spot on her lower back that when touched made her hind legs tense up. We think that may be the problem and that her knees are actually fine! She's on pain meds for two weeks. But that's such a relief that the surgery has actually worked!
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:37 AM
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Oh wow! What great news! Fingers crossed the pain meds help the back get better.
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Yay! Great news. Hopefully it's an easy fix and Delilah continues to improve!
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I hope that fixes her!
Back pain can manifest in strange ways. I had a ruptured disc a couple years ago (fell off a roof). My symptoms were all digestive related. Lack of appetite, nausea, and kidney pain. After thousands of dollars in GI testing, we finally found the issue with the disc. Fusion surgery has removed almost all the symptoms for me.

Might look into a doggy chiropractor.
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Does the vet think massage or chiropractor work will help her back at all? Or is it just a lay low and wait it out game?
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Arrow chiropractic & spinal pain // Acupuncture?

i'd consult a k9-chiropractor, myself -
after a car-accident in which i was asleep in the passenger-seat [16-hour working day, went out to dinner, my date was driving me home & cleverly used a power-pole on a curve to stop the car at 35-mph],
only my chiro helped me; the Drs at Centre Co Community Hospital were as useless as tits on a bull.

They told me variously that my inability to take A DEEP BREATH was 'emotional upset' [while patting my shoulder - i wanted to bite that Doc!], 'muscle tension' [3 weeks after the accident?!?!?!...], or 'mental trauma - U're anxious' [What?].

In fact, i was using 1/2 my right lung, 1/4 my left, I had fluid in both lungs, my diaphragm wasn't working, & i was heaving my ribcage open to breathe, each time - the way lizards & birds do, which is bl**dy hard work, it turns out.
I even gave the Docs the ultimate clue: my fingers, nose, & earlobes had pins & needles, all the time; a classic symptom of O2 deprivation, right out of basic triage or good nursing.
Oy, vey.

By the time i saw my chiro, referred by my next-door neighbor, blessed be her memory, it was 3 full weeks, & i still felt like H***. // By the end of my 1st appt, I was able to breathe deeply for the 1st time in almost a month - i was crying in pain, b/c the muscles spasmed horribly on being released after so long, but i could BREATHE! - no more long-line girdle compressing my chest. Relief!
I wanted to kiss Dr John's cheek.

- terry

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I would follow the Vets advice. There are times when less is best, and she may well completely recover on her own, with some anti-inflammation and pain medication. If she can heal on her own, that is by far, better than having some one poking, prodding, twisting and cutting. Lets hope!
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