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Old 08-31-2016, 04:31 PM
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Something creepy coming out of my dog

For the past year there has been something suspect coming out with my dogs stools. The vets have not been able to identify whatever it is.

It basically looks like the stools are sprinkled with a fine granule. Its very tiny but it is all OVER and IN the stools. It shows up about 3/4ths of the time. The only time it seemed to be absent for a period was during a prazi treatment and about 3 days after. But it came back long before a TW could have fully regenerated. On the 4th day after the treatment, it was back.

At first I thought maybe whipworm egg packets but its in the stool and not just on the outside. I have tried to take photos but they have not turned out well. I did look at them at 25X but not strong enough to distinguish anything.

She has had GI issues off and on for the past year and recently a GI bleed and I would sure like to know if these tiny little bumps in the stools have contributed to that.

Thanks so much
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:44 PM
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Go to a different vet, and/or send a description/picture/sample to a vet school. There's only so many things is could be. May be better than guesses by us, who do not have even a picture to go by although of course we want to help.
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You have tried photos, but how about a stool sample delivered to the Vet to test? Seems odd that your Vet didn't ask for that.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:14 PM
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Could it be anything that you're feeding? I know this seems like a simple thing, but my mom fed a dog blueberries for a week. Then these giant blobs where in the poo and we had no idea what they were. Then we realized they were undigested blueberries. Crisis averted.
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This sounds very much like partially undigested food. When dogs are having digestive issues, or a particular brand is hard to digest, the stools can appear to have granules in them, sometimes only in small amounts, other times, the entire poop is affected this way. Maybe a food change is in order? Or digestive enzymes/probiotics?
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Yes the Vets have done in house diagnostics on the stools. Nothing ever came back except that one time when the float test timed out, the Vet had to go do something and came back 20 minutes after it timed out and some things had floated. The Vet described them as microscopic larvae with cocoons wrapped around them. The Vet had a book of known parasites & amebas and there was nothing that was even close on a side by side.

There has been nothing other than her regular food for intake but we have been looking into seeing if she can tolerate a diet change. We had one diet failure a couple weeks ago that exacerbated a GI bleed.

I already checked it with a field microscope and not enough power. May try to snap a pic with the digital microscope and send it to a parasitologist.

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Google searching brings up some interesting information on parasites and lupus...
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Have your vet send the stool sample out to the lab.
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Yes, they have sent fecal samples to a lab, however, I don't think they pushed to find out what the larvae / cocoon the vet seen earlier this year was.

The problems are compounded and they take too long to find out all of this stuff as far as I am concerned.

But I am working to find out;

1. What that larvae / cocoon was and if its still there. Vet thought it may have been contaminated dry food but unlikely as she was on RC dry veg at the time and they kill all organisms by how they package their dry food. Unless the bag had a hole but that was tested and there was no leaks in the bag.

2. Clearing up a GI bleed. Could be stomach, small intestine, and possibly large intestine. Some of the blood was dry flecks but some was wet sticky flecks. The lab said there was a significant amount of blood. No kidding, why I took her in a few weeks ago to begin with.

3. Finding the root causes of the GI bleeds. One could be her steroid usage but its at a acceptable level for the past 3 months. Her Mycophenolate was contributing to her GI bleed and that has been discontinued. She could have a diseased GI tract. And its possible she could have whipworms but the vet tested and found no eggs but I don't think they can call that 100% with one Antech test. Because of her lupus and hypersensitivity, we have to be careful treating for things unless we have good evidence.

4. And finally if we can get her GI tract back in better shape. Using Sucralfate slurry and Tagamet treatments. We then may be able to try to work on a diet change. And thats if she does not have a lupus flare in the meantime since we had to discontinue the Mycoph.

Its a lot for this little 14 pound dog to deal with, that's for sure. Her lupus really bites!

Has anyone had a dog with whipworms? I know all of the signs and symptoms but it would be good to hear from someone experiencing that first hand.
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