Possible allergic reaction to vaccines

Go Back   Dog Forum > Keeping and Caring for Dogs > Dog Health

Possible allergic reaction to vaccines

This is a discussion on Possible allergic reaction to vaccines within the Dog Health forums, part of the Keeping and Caring for Dogs category; Hi, Just wondering if any of your pups/dogs have had an allergic reaction to their vaccines? My puppy just got her last set of core ...

User Tag List

Like Tree6Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-09-2016, 01:10 AM
  #1
Senior Member
 
yoshiposhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 712
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Possible allergic reaction to vaccines

Hi,

Just wondering if any of your pups/dogs have had an allergic reaction to their vaccines?

My puppy just got her last set of core vaccines and lepto today and a couple of hours later she was whining when she sat or touched the area where the shot was administered (left thigh). I didn't think anything of it at first cuz it's natural that the area would be sore. But then she sat closer to me and I saw there was a huge lump! About 3cms in diameter. She was very uncountable when it was touched.

We just got back from the vet and he cannot say for sure it's an allergic reaction but it's quite possible. He told me to do a heat compress for 5 mins and then a cold compress for 5 mins and repeat every 2 hours.

If the bump doesn't get smaller by time I have to go back. She was totally fine after the shot, ate her dinner, drank water etc. No diarrhea or vomiting.
Really hope the heat/cold compress works.

She keeps nipping at my hand or the cloth (that's wrapped around the pad) so I have to distract her with her antler chew.

Is this ever happened to your pups/dogs?
yoshiposhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 05:11 AM
  #2
Senior Member
 
PoppyKenna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Kansas
Posts: 2,877
Mentioned: 715 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Sophie had a lump at the vaccination site when she was a puppy. Being the paranoid person I am, of course I thought it was cancer or something else horrible.

The vet said it would go away and it did....and it's never happened again either.
PoppyKenna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 07:29 AM
  #3
Senior Member
 
Chas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,629
Mentioned: 126 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Hasn't happened to any dogs I know, but I had this reaction to the guardacil and tetanus vaccine, I had three tetanus vaccines close together because I needed good records for working in a hospital and they kept stuffing up the paper work. There are a couple causes of the bump; bruising if they hit a blood vessel with the needle and inflammatory reaction. The bruising I've definitely had with local anesthetic and wasn't a big deal, it should start to get better within a few days. The inflammatory reaction was actually good because it meant my body identified the tetnus/hpv and tried to destroy it, it was itchy and painful to touch it went away over a period of weeks. Neither were allergic reactions though, I was just already immune to the bugs, so I'm not sure if this helps. It's good that she's under vet supervision.
Chas is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 04-09-2016, 07:31 AM
  #4
Senior Member
 
yoshiposhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 712
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoppyKenna View Post
Sophie had a lump at the vaccination site when she was a puppy. Being the paranoid person I am, of course I thought it was cancer or something else horrible.

The vet said it would go away and it did....and it's never happened again either.
I'm a paranoid person too! Especially with my dogs. 6 hours later the swelling wasn't going down so we went back (at 445am lol) and it ended up being $50 I didn't have to spend lol she poo'd on the floor and it was solid, and she was being her usual wigglybum self with the vet when I let her down on the floor. The vet was probably rolling his eyes inside and wondering why I even bothered coming in haha

For piece of mind I'm glad I still went in instead of second guessing and being paranoid haha
Chas likes this.
yoshiposhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 07:39 AM
  #5
Senior Member
 
yoshiposhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 712
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
@Chas thanks for the reassurance. she was totally fine with her first 2 sets of vaccines so seeing her cry and whine this time when she sat down on that side alarmed me. Seeing her excited and running around in the exam room made me feel a lot better (she didn't have the same energy at home).
yoshiposhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 10:18 AM
  #6
Senior Member
 
CadenceDiscordia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,877
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
When Merlin got his second set of vaccines at 9 weeks (I believe) he came home and was extremely sore in the general area where he got the vaccine. He would barely move, yelped and cried when he did, didn't want to be touched, etc. I mentioned it to my vet when we went in for the next round and he suggested giving the vaccine without the lepto in it. Now, when he gets the vaccine, they give him something for an allergic reaction as well, and he seems to do ok.
CadenceDiscordia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 02:04 PM
  #7
Senior Member
 
busannie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: MD
Posts: 442
Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
IME, the lepto vacc seems to be most likely to cause soreness around the actual injection site. I don't know that it's scientifically proven, but the vet I work for vaccs a large percentage of dogs for lepto due to a rat problem in some areas nearby and higher than average number of cases in our city/county, and it does seem like it's one of the more likely vaccs to cause dogs to have acute pain (rather than just feeling a little sore all over as is more common after vaccs). I don't know that it's necessarily an allergy to the vacc so much as just a local reaction of the tissue at the injection site.

Lepto is one of the more common vaccines to cause an allergic reaction though (usually hives, face/muzzle swelling, vomiting, etc), and I usually recommend to people to try to do it in the morning so that if dog has a reaction, we're there all day to treat (most dogs get an injection of antihistamine +/- steroid and are good to go, then get premedicated with the same prior to future vaccines). Make sure your vet knows all of her symptoms, but if you are in an area where lepto is a big problem, I would still be inclined to finish the series if the vet recommends to do so. Maybe in the future, give it separately from other vaccs though, to lessen the blow a little
busannie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 03:40 PM
  #8
Senior Member
 
LuvMyFluff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SanDiego CA
Posts: 1,445
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
My Molly is mostly poodle and the lepto vaccine is a no no for her as it sometimes has a bad reaction for dogs of her breed and as it is not a vac that is necessary in my location/lifestyle, I do not give it ( I follow Dr Dodds protocol)

Unfortunatly though, I cannot avoid giving her rabies vacs as it is the law here......she had her 1st one at 16weeks as required by law and three weeks after the fact she had a bald spot at the injection site....and the hair never grew back for months! Just as it finally grew back it was time for the 3yr re-vaccination at 1 years old, and again weeks later, it happened again only this time both injection sites are bald and still are!( she is 4 yrs old) She is due for a re-vac of rabies this year and all I can do is request they vaccinate on the inside of her leg............... it is called 'Ischemic Dermatopathy' and with the next dose it could be worse, or just be the same with a small bald spot. Non the less I don't want any more bald spots in the same area so that is why I will request it be given on the inside of her thigh where it won't show! So, it is not only your normal vacs that can cause problems, because this kind rabies reaction can happen to any breed dog! Yes it is rare but it can happen.......


I Did take pics......Rabies is always given in the right rear thigh here in CA.

This is what it looked like the 1st time at 1 years old, 3 weeks AFTER the vaccination.....



And this is what it looks like now, 3 years later. There are actually 2 dark
bald spots but one is cover by surrounding hair....
LuvMyFluff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2016, 10:38 PM
  #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 368
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Pets can have a variety of 'reactions' to vaccines, though most are fairly uncommon. Pain at the site of the vaccine is not that rare, though swelling associated with that pain is far less common and would definitely warrant telling the veterinarian so either that vaccine can be skipped in the future, pretreated with Benadryl, and best to give it alone (not with other vaccines the same week). Large swellings can be a reaction to the vaccine itself, or sometimes it can be from an infection associated with simply have gotten an injection (the vaccine just having been an 'innocent' bystander in those situations). The infection swellings tend to grow, rather than shrink, after 24 hours, feel hot and sometimes even rupture and bleed.

Some dogs get very achey and suffer muscle and joint pain after vaccines (usually smaller dogs). This is familiar to me as I had the same reaction when I had my rabies vaccines in veterinary school (most all of us did). This can easily be treated with a little aspirin and rarely last more that 12-24 hours. Still best to let the vet know, but this is not an unusual reaction.

Some dogs get more severe reactions such as facial swelling, vomiting and even diarrhea sometimes. Those would be considered fairly severe reactions and definitely need to be not only reported to the vet, but to the vaccine company as well. Maybe best to either not repeat that vaccine ever, or pretreat with benadryl and have the pet hang out in the clinic for a few hours afterwards, just in case it happens again.

The reactions we worry most about in dogs are the anaphylactic reactions- severe and even possibly life-threatening reactions that involve a marked allergic reaction that makes dogs weak, wobbly, pale and often vomit and sometimes collapse. These reactions should be treated as emergencies and you should seek medical attention immediately. I have only seen two of these in my 30 years as a vet, but one was just this last week. Fortunately neither pet died, but both were very pale and weak for a few hours (one was a ferret, one a poodle). I am strongly recommending the poodle not get a rabies vaccine again, but that requires a lot of fighting with the county as they often do not give in and allow the owner to opt out of such a vaccine. Rabies is a very serious disease and the county does not like to OK the skipping of such a vaccine that could prevent the spread of this disease.

In cats, the worst vaccine reactions (again very rare) are those that cause a lump and later on develop into a cancerous mass. These have been associated with some adjuvented rabies and some leukemia vaccines (which is why we do not use either of these types of vaccines in cats at our clinic- many clinics have adopted this strategy all across the country). I have seen about a dozen of these serious reactions over 30 years, but none in the last 6-8 years for some reason. And I have never once seen or even heard of such a reaction in a dog (so far). But this is the reason why, at least in cats, we give all rabies and leukemia vaccines in the rear legs of cats, even though we do not use the adjuvented vaccines... so that if we ever were to get one of these cancerous tumors, the leg can be amputated to save the cat's life (can't amputate a cat's neck so we never give these two vaccines there).

Was interested to hear the owner above thinks all dogs get vaccinated in the rear legs in California (which is where I work)... the only important reason to do so would be the same reason we give them in the rear legs in cats. I have heard a few vets do give these vaccines in the rear legs in dogs, but I can assure you, most do NOT do that in California, and there is frankly, no important reasons to do that. Shots hurt a lot worse in the rear, and since dogs do not get vaccine sarcomas, why do it? The other argument I have heard is by separating the vaccines a great distance from each other, if there is a vaccine reaction of any kind that forms a lump or local pain, then one can determine which vaccine it was. Again, these local reactions in dogs are rare, but more importantly, rarely serious and usually disappear soon afterwards.

I have seen a few permanent cases of hair loss from particularly bad infections and perhaps in a few more allergic-related vaccine reactions, but none serious enough (aside from the anaphylactic ones) to make us never want to vaccinate the dog again (at least with rabies vaccine). Very old, unhealthy or dogs with immune diseases should probably not be vaccinated if it is not absolutely necessary, however. Not worth trying to prevent against an unlikely illness in the face of a current, serious problem or somewhat unstable pet.
lzrddr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 12:50 AM
  #10
Senior Member
 
LuvMyFluff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SanDiego CA
Posts: 1,445
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
@Izrddr............I take my girl to Animal Control for her rabies vac (&license) and I was told they always do the rabies vac in the rear, as you mention because of the ability of being able to tell which vac is the culprit in case of a reaction....
My question to you is: Since my girl has been reactive both times, if I request it subQ in the shoulder area, is she less likely to have hair loss? I know she is not eligible to opt out of the rabies, but I don't want to chance a huge area of baldness either! Is it ok to request a half dose? (just read about Dr Dodds half dose pilot study of this)

She also had no pain associated with her vaccination, just the loss of hair which did not happen until 2-3 weeks AFTER! This dog, other than being spayed has never been sick a day in her life LOL!!!
LuvMyFluff is offline   Reply With Quote
Dog Stairs - Dog Steps - Quality Pet Products
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Resident Dog Aggressive After Vaccines pshuckleberry Dog Training and Behavior 3 03-01-2016 02:29 PM
Resident Dog Aggressive After Vaccines pshuckleberry Dog Training and Behavior 0 02-29-2016 01:38 PM
Oversized lap-dog & Funny reaction timber Dog Pictures and Videos 0 02-14-2016 09:55 PM
Prozac Causing Reaction in 3 Days? TruckersMom Dog Training and Behavior 8 01-27-2016 08:42 AM
I'm allergic to dogs . . what should I do? travelgal General Dog Discussion 19 12-26-2015 08:29 PM


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.