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Old 08-24-2017, 08:02 PM
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Please Help Strange(And I mean STRANGE) issue with our pup!

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As some of you know, my sisters dog Nemo(He's about 14 years old, Pomeranian mix) he was diagnosed in 2012 with a trachea collapse..in April of this year was diagnosed with a heart murmur and also pulmonary hypertension he is currently on Vetmadin, Hydrocodone for the cough, and also two other medications since a few weeks ago he was diagnosed with pneumonia(He had a bad cough sounded like mucus so they put him on meds for that) the pneumonia has improved somewhat but now a new problem and it is out of the blue and we dont know what it is so I am going to describe it here(We asked the vet, and they cant figure it out either)
Every single time Nemo has to poop(This will always occur BEFORE he poops so you dont even know it til he goes outside) he will become very weak..collapse, scream, and then poop..he has been doing this for the past few days..his tongue will also get a bluish color like he is lacking oxygen..he did it this morning..was in his bed(This was before taking Viagra for the hypertension so he didnt have it in his system) he couldnt get out of bed, once he did and he went outside, he screamed, my sister took him in her arms, literally thought to herself "OK this is it he is going to die now" then he was fine, color returned to his tongue, put him down, and he pooped and that was it back to normal went back inside the house, ran around, jumped for food..about an hour ago, he did it again..this time no screaming..he couldnt get himself off the floor, my sister called was going to rush him to the Vet didnt know what was happening..color of tongue was bluish, she took him outside, and he pooped..so whatever the heck is going on its ALL related to him having to go to the bathroom and we are not sure why..it doesnt happen when he needs to pee, or eat or anything else..but only when he needs to poop this happens and no one knows why..the Vet he saw(His cardiologist is unfortunately out of town til the 28th) said maybe he's having a cardiac episode which causes this..I find that hard to believe..a cardiac episode ONLY when he needs to poop? Like he freaks himself out beforehand into a frenzy and is literally out of breathe then poops..if anyone here has any idea what might be going on would really appreciate it. We know Nemo is on borrowed time but to die like this, from something like this makes no sense thank you so much for your time
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Old 08-24-2017, 09:32 PM
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Unhappy Yikes. // He's very fragile, a this point.

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... its ALL related to him having [a BM], & we are not sure why - it doesn't happen when he needs to pee, or eat, or anything else - only when he needs to poop --- & no one knows why.

the Vet he saw (his cardiologist is ... out of town...) said maybe he's having a cardiac episode, which causes this.

I find that hard to believe..a cardiac episode ONLY when he needs to poop?
... he freaks himself out beforehand... & is literally out of breath, then poops.
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We know Nemo is on borrowed time but to die like this, ... makes no sense.

thank you so much for your time.
This will sound callous, but he has not "died of it" yet. // He's got multiple serious issues, most of them cardiac, PLUS respiratory. Any of them could kill him at any moment. His blood-O2 could drop & he could have a stroke; his heart could fibrillate & quit; he could throw a clot & be paralyzed; his major organs [liver, kidneys] could begin to fail.

The GP-vet thinks it's something to do with the pending-BM, & that makes sense to me; does he STRAIN when he poops? - are his stools too firm?
He may need more fluid, more fiber, or both, to make BMs easier to pass.

If he has any pain [internal or external hemorrhoids?] he may be trying NOT to poop, to avoid the hurt - inevitably, that will fail; he can't avoid stooling for long. // Pain can also stress him enormously, & make him frantic, hence breathless, which in turn affects his heart function [lack of O2, the body wants more, the heart races, BP rises, etc].

All of us are mortal, & something will kill us all; no-one lives forever, & that's probly a good thing.
Think of all the ppl U know who have no idea what to do with themselves on a rainy Saturday - it's amazing. Imagine just how much more jaded, bored, & frustrated they'd be if they were 250-YO, & still as hale as a current-day 60-YO with a BMI of 25 & no chronic conditions.

Treasure Nemo while U still have him; he could go at any time, as could any one of us. // There are no warranties on lifespan. My grandmother died at 94, with 7 children, 20 grandkids, & 4 great-grand. My mother died at 93, with 4 children, 3 grandkids, & 1 great-grand.
They both died at home, in their own beds - while sleeping.
I'd be a fool if i "expected" to live that long.

My sire died 3-years after retiring, of sheer pigheadedness - he refused to do any of the things his Doc told him he needed to do: exercise, find a hobby, lose wt, & STOP using salt.
He had 3 heart-attacks & 2 strokes; he died in a hospital bed of pneumonia.

Nemo is definitely on borrowed time; just why he's having these symptoms around BMs i don't know, but i agree with the GP-vet that it seems to be cardiac. // Does the root cause matter? - how would U want to treat it, assuming it was treatable?

- terry

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