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Old 01-22-2016, 12:14 PM
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Opinion on rare swollen gums

My 5-year-old schnauzer developed a swollen gum just above his upper fang. It appeared overnight. It just a tiny part of the gum (1cms x 1cms) that is red and swollen and it lost the dark normal gum color the rest of the mouth has.

I took him to the vet, he suspected it was traumatic since it appeared overnight and prescribed anti-inflamatory (Rimadyl) for 2 days. It didn't work. He then prescribed Papenzym for 5 days. It didn't work either. The lesion still the same size, color and location. It has not grown, it does not hurts the dog, even when pressed hard, the tooth if firm and healthy, it does not bleed, it doesnt bother the dog to bark, eat, drink water or play.

Vet insists it's not a neoplasic lesion, since it clearly seems like the gum tissue swollen, so cutting to extract a sample for a biopsy would damage the gum more. He doesn't considered to do an x-ray since the tooth is firm, healthy and it does not have pain. He checked under the gum above the teeth for foreign bodies and nothing.

His best guess is that it was a traumatic lesion, something he ate or a hit that swollen the gum, then it keeps on swollen because the lower fang keeps pressing the site.

Thing is, that he is puzzled too because of the lesion, he will investigate on local anti-inflamatories to use or perhaps injecting cortioids right on the lesion to reduce swolleness and revert the cycle where the lower fangs keeps bruising the lesion.

I'd like to get some other people's opinion in order to expand the options of the causes and treatment of the lesions.
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Old 01-23-2016, 01:47 AM
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Personally I would get a second opinion form a different vet hospital. I you called the hospital I work at; based off your description we would expect to be doing a dental, probing the tooth, dental X-rays pending the probe results, and biopsy pending the X-ray results; of course all of that would depend on the initial physical exam.

A tooth being firm and not painful does not mean there's no issues. We just had a dachshund mix in yesterday with what appeared to be normal teeth just mild tartar. The dog ended up needing 15 teeth extracted and may still need more teeth extracted in a few months. Both of the upper canines appeared to be normal on the outside until we probed the teeth. Normal gum tissue in 2-3 mm deep, when we probed the canines our 10 mm probe went in as far as it could go! The owner opted to try and save those canines, thankfully after xrays it was determined that there wasn't an abscesses root or major bone loss yet so we were able to apply a specialized antibiotic gel to hopefully prevent an infection and regrow not the bone to close up that pocket. There is no way we would have known about the problem without doing a general anesthetic and probing the teeth along every surface.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:27 AM
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Photo? Gingival redness and swelling can be focal periodontal disease, a tooth root abscess, a growth (epuli are common in many canine gums) etc... trauma rarely causes swelling unless it's severe, but it also improves rapidly (gums are very fast healing tissues)... so if it's not going away, unlikely trauma is the cause. It may not be anything serious, but getting a biopsy and/or radiographs (DENTAL radiographs, not regular ones) would be a good place to start. There is NO way one can look at a mass or swelling like that and say it is NOT neoplastic (cancerous)... but likely it is not. Still, to argue that it's not without any diagnostics is a bit risky.
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Here I'm posting some photos. I'm gonna request the dental xray to be on the safe side!
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that looks like an epulis... only they are usually slow growing. That just showed up suddenly? I would DEFINITELY get that looked at more closely (biopsy if dental rads don't show a tooth root problem). Does NOT look like trauma to me. That is a growth (could be gingival hyperplasia secondary to some degree of infection or inflammation around/below tooth... but doesn't look inflamed enough)
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