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Old 09-05-2016, 04:26 PM
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So I got a new puppy Saturday the puppy does not seem to know when it has to P or poop it just continues to walk he does not squat he does not lift his leg nothing he will lay there and poop or even late MP he will P in his bed I don't know if he just came from a dirty environment or if there is something wrong I plan on calling the vet tomorrow but until then I'm wondering if anybody has any insight or has ever experienced this I've never seen anything like it. Other than that the dog seems completely normal he is almost 4 months old very well behaved puppy eats sleeps and everything else is wonderful with the puppy the stool is not mucousy not discolored nothing like that he doesn't act abnormal At all not lathargic or anything. I'm clueless to why the he does not know to sqaut or to even sniff for a place to go it's like he just doesn't even have a clue. HELP
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Old 09-06-2016, 03:30 AM
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It is quite normal for puppies not to know when they have to pee or poop, until it is 'right this second!'. They are still learning about their bodily functions, and cannot hold pee or poop very well.

Also, I take it you have a male puppy, male dogs do not start lifting their legs up right away to pee. I also have a male puppy, 16 weeks old now, and he stands to pee. This is normal.

How often do you take him outside to potty? I would suggest going every hour. In between, if you know that he even poops in his bed, all eyes on the puppy. When he starts sniffing the ground, pick him up and carry him outside. Go to a specific potty place and just stand there. (If he lies down, walk like one or two steps just to get him in standing/walking position again) Do not go on a long walk, it may be too exciting for your dog so he forgets to do his business. Go for the fun walk AFTER the potty. When he potties, praise him and give him a treat!

When he potties inside, try to interrupt him by picking him up or forcing him to move (no hitting, but you can hold him behind the shoulders and gently force him forwards so he has to walk) or by a sound (but there's the danger of starting to yell at him, and thus punishing him which you should not do), then quickly pick him up and bring him outside. If he does his business outside, even if it is just a drop and the rest is in your living room, praise like insane and give him treats.

Inside, do NOT punish the puppy when he does his business. He will learn that you are scary and capable of hurting him, he will not learn not to do his business inside. Also, make sure you thoroughly clean the spots where he relieved himself. Make sure you use an enzymatic cleaner so the scent is gone. Urine/poop smell is like a sign to your dog saying "this is a toilet!".

And of course it is a good thing you're going to the vet, hope nothing is wrong with the little guy!
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Old 09-06-2016, 06:25 AM
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Congrats on the new puppy! ProjectClick is correct that young puppies don't have much early warning that they need to go. Good advice in that comment. This sticky has more info about potty training: House Training How Tos

I'm curious about the environment the pup lived in before you got him. Quite often dogs will instinctively avoid eliminating in living areas; however, dogs that are forced to live in dirty conditions will not have that same instinct. Unfortunately, that can make house training a bit more difficult.
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How old is the puppy?
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That is my thought also is that he was in a dirty environment we have a three year old English bulldog and she has never had this issue and we got her around three months old. And that's what is weird about it all he doesn't even sniff at all it's like no warning that he had to go he doesn't even push the poop out at all he just walks and if it falls out it falls if it doesn't it doesn't and he doesn't seem to care. He is so cute I don't wanna even get a stern voice with him. I take him out every hour if not more I wake up three times a night also to take him out. Whatever it is he goes to the vet Friday they said he he is having any other symtoms to call back and they will see him sooner but as I told them he seems perfectly healthy otherwise that's what makes me think he is just being lazy and is used to being dirty. Poor dog has had like 7 baths already since I got him but that's the only thing I know to do to get the poop out of his butt is to squirt it with our dog bath hose.
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He is 4 months old on the 19th
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Wow, that is a tough deal you've got there. Especially with the way he does not even make an 'event' out of pooping but forgets halfway through. This is a first I've heard a dog doing that (with no medical conditions, if that is the case).

It definitely makes you wonder about the living environment he was in before.
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It's possible there is a medical condition, but I suspect he became accustomed to eliminating where ever and without care in his previous environment. Still, as has been said, a young puppy doesn't really have an early warning system for needing to go.

Don't get stern with him - that will be counterproductive. Take him out more often (probably more often than you think is necessary - I learned the hard way) and throw a party when he goes outside. He's not being lazy, his previous environment very likely encouraged him to create an unfortunate association concerning house training. It's up to you to help him create a new, more acceptable association, i.e., potty happens outside.

What breed is he? Did you get him from a local breeder?
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He is a pure bread English bulldog with papers. He is the best little puppy all but this problem I called a different vet as much as I rather take him to my vet I want him seen asap so he goes tonight at 530. We traveled 2 and a half hrs to get him from a breeder bc dad is second best in bullies and mom 7th best in AKC supposed to be a great breeder the guy did say he would make it right so I hope he stands by this. I don't wanna give up on him though we paid a lot for him as it is.
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So the puppy...we have to take him back down Saturday we were having problems to where when he peed he just peed where ever when ever like had no knowledge that he had to go. Same with poop didn't sqaut didn't sniff like he had to go. Nothing. So we took him to the vet he has nerve damage I cried so hard I had to let Tim aka my husband in there and had to go out to the van I couldn't breath they said the best thing is to have him put down there is no correction for it in a dog. The vet said he will never live a normal life and if the nerve damage goes all the way to the bladder there is no telling how far it goes like the dr pinched his anus with with interlocking forceps and Bruno didn't budge an inch squirm nothing his anus was bleeding and he had no feeling at all. It's so sad. The breeder is letting us bring him back Saturday bc of him being so far away and giving us our money back the vet talked to him over the phone and left him know what was going on. And told him that the best thing to do is to have him put down so he is going to take care of all that financial aspects of that part. The kids and us are soooo crushed I'm a mess. He is the perfect puppy. All but that. I just held him and cried the whole way home.
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