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Old 06-07-2016, 12:35 PM
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Thank you! I will definitely take a look at this. I spoke with a vet in Kingston, ON that takes a more holistic approach. They are unable to take Bella for a week and so I told them that it seems she has a bit of an infection, and they said in the meantime, they wouldn't be "against" getting her on some antibiotics to take care of whats already been done and that they would be able to help me get to the bottom of what is actually causing these infections. So thats good!

I went to another vet who could get me and they gave me 5g Prednisone for itching (good for food transitions which cause a bit of itching during detox) and some topical antibiotic spray for her vulva. He did say however that her ears looked good and to keep doing what I'm doing - I have been using apple cider vinegar for a week now and it seems to have helped!

Fingers are crossed. Thanks again for this info!
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Kingston is my home town!!! Which Vet were you looking into?
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Kingston is my home town!!! Which Vet were you looking into?
Wow, what a small world lol. I don't think I've come across anyone else on this forum really from Ontario! The vet who takes a holistic approach is the Kingston Mills vet. My fingers are crossed and hoping for the best. Hoping they can help me figure out what the underlying problem here is for my pup Bella. Think its food allergies!
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Why do you think the infections are caused by allergies?
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The remedy for infections is antibiotics. Very simple.
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Too many things at one time.

Personally, I would stop any and all medications and give the raw food a chance to do it's thing. The dogs body won't be getting a proper chance to detox. What you've done with your dog by switching to raw is to remove all the excess carp out of her diet and made her sugar free.

Antibiotics can actually create a yeast environment.
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@KerriAnn, had to reread this thread again... I'm not a vet so take it for what it's worth. Spent over 3 years chasing why our dog was eating himself and constant ear infections.

Prednisone as an example scares me, it's an immunosupressant and many vets deal it out like candy. Overprescribed for too many issues. And there are many internal medical issues that can cause itching and ear infections.

For example, our pup has hypothyroidism, and caused much of his itching - near constant battle with his ear infections. Took 3 years to find one vet that would listen - to get him diagnosed - he was at the point where he was having minor seizures. Vet after vet argued with me to put him on prednisone - while he was undiagnosed and they didn't want to take the time to find out why he was having issues. The medication itself reduces thyroid function and probably would have killed him - current holistic vet verified that. Pred interferes with the liver, another organ that can produce an itchy condition. Antibiotics can wreak havoc with your dogs digestive system - combined with pred...?

The dog needs time to get her immune system back on track. Don't take this as advice, just my 2 cents.
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@jagger,

Thank you for sharing that! I didn't know any of that and am glad that you have shared that information with me. I really hate giving her "western" medicine. I myself do everything natural and really want to same for my dog. I just really felt (and sometimes still continue to feel) at a loss with her with all of the issues she has. I will definitely stop giving her to her but I am not sure what I should do from here.

For the past (probably) 4 months, I have been feeding her Big Country Raw. Its all antibiotic and hormone free raw meat. I started her on turkey because I thought she may have a chicken allergy from the get go. Her stools changed from soft to hard (but small) balls of white feces. From my understanding, white and hard balls of stool are the usual with raw feeding - however, I think her stools are perhaps too small to express her anal glands. I have switched her from turkey, to pork - pork changed her stool to dark brown (almost blackish). I just read that that could be an indication that she may be receiving too much bone and not enough meat as well as a possible indication that we switched her too quickly from turkey to pork. Because her stools changed, we switched her to duck and after a week now, she is itching. I don't know if it is because her anal glands are full or if it is seasonal/food allergy related. I really hate to take her to the vet and have them expressed because after watching the video you provided to me, having her anal glands expressed could cause injury or could make the anal glands fail to express on their own. Any ideas what I should do?

We have had her on duck (with veggies) for the past week and now she is itching near her rear end. We also around the same time started to include oat bran with each meal in an effort to bulk up her stool. Am I doing something wrong.. I'm totally at a loss again

Thank you for your help!
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Why do you think the infections are caused by allergies?
That's the only thing I can think of. One of the signs of food and or environmental allergies is reoccurring infections. Other than that, I have no idea why this would be reoccurring with her.
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That's the only thing I can think of. One of the signs of food and or environmental allergies is reoccurring infections.
I've never heard of that before. Allergies don't usually have anything to do with infections.

My lab had an ear infection the other day, the vet told us clean his ears more often and to keep them dry above all.

If the infections are still reoccurring I'd guess (as a total layperson) that there is some source for the bacteria in your home or the antibiotic treatments aren't long enough to fully work.

I think you're trying too many things at once. Lots of dogs have trouble with abrupt changes in their diet.

First of all though, I would lay off ALL the raw feeding until you get this figured out. If she is having constant infections, that means her immune system is not working as well as it should and eating raw food is subjecting her to many more bacteria.
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I am sorry, I should have mentioned, I am now feeding raw. She hasn't been on it too long as she was supposedly (according to vets but found out otherwise) on high quality kibble. I found out no kibble is good. Raw is definitely the way to go.
Some bacterial and yeast infections can be eliminated with green tea, but it's known to depress thyroid function with continued usage, so be aware of that if you decide to use it. Green tea has been very helpful with yeast based sinus infections that used to drip into my mouth and cause abscesses in one particular tooth that had a root canal. Worked better than antibiotics.

You also might not want to hear this, but I fed raw for about 5 years, and had no end of stubborn, medicine resistant eye & ear infections on it. The worst was with a dog who had underlying autoimmune issues. He had green slime oozing out of his ear for 4.5 out of those five years he was on raw. We tried every medication available, both OTC and from the Vet. Nolvasan helped some, but never cured it. After a while, the ears began to get so inflamed, his ear canal was closing, and required an ointment infused with steroids

Our time raw feeding culminated in so many serious issues, I admit to being very anti-raw to this day. We had taken our dogs partially off raw for what was supposed to be a temporary period during a move. Between traveling depressed finances, we switched back to about 50% kibble to economize, and saw such a drastic difference for the better we realized how many problems we actually were having, and never looked back since. If kibble is not working for your dog, why not cook?
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