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Old 09-22-2017, 06:20 PM
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I started to notice red bumps around my husky's mouth and was wondering if you guys knew what it might be? Is it just acne or is it rashes? I hear that huskies tend to get zinc deficiencies. Could this be the culprit of it?

And, what foods would you recommend to treat this?

Thanks so much,
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Arrow vet, vet, vet...

unfortunately, Huskies have a slew of skin & eye issues, & without a scraping & exam by a vet, what U describe could be anything from an allergy to a serious auto-immune problem.

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https://www.dogforum.com/general-dog-...2/#post3419658

I just posted multiple links for heritable problems in SIbes; personally, i'd make an appt with my vet, ASAP.
Hope it's just an allergy - but really, have it checked soon.

What are the food bowl & water dish made of, that Ur dog uses daily?

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What food do you have your husky on?? They require food that has no grains period. The best bowls for them are metal and cleaned daily. I would take your husky to the vet! :-)
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Arrow I'm not sure Huskies' diets must be "grain-free"

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...[Huskies] require food that has no grains, period.

The best bowls for them are metal, & cleaned daily.
I would take your husky to the vet! :-)
Why? --- are Huskies so different from other breeds, re diet?
Dogs have co-evolved with humans for thousands of years, eating our leftovers -- & thriving on them.
Feral dogs don't hunt buffalo in Yellowstone; they hunt restaurant-waste in dumpsters or wasted food in trashcans.

Food allergies in dogs do exist, of course! - but they are generally to proteins, not to 'grains' in general, & when a particular dog has a particular intolerance of a grain, it's one grain, not "all grains".

The 2 least-likely to make good contributions to k9 diets are problematic b/c they are high-cellulose [flint corn, AKA cornmeal, field corn, etc] or extremely complex, huge molecules [soybeans - which even Euro-descended humans have trouble digesting: note how many Merikans complain that tofu or soymilk give them gassy-guts & cramps.
Asian ppls have eaten soy for millennia; it's a relatively-recent addition to W Europe & the USA, we haven't adjusted our gut-flora to accommodate it, yet.


Starchy Diets May Have Given Ancient Dogs a Paw Up
- Live Science
https://www.livescience.com › Health
Jan 23, 2013 -
Humans are well-equipped for starchy diets: Human saliva contains an enzyme called amylase, which starts breaking down starches as soon as food hits the mouth. Dog drool doesn't have this advantage, but dogs do excrete amylase from their pancreases, allowing for the digestion of starches in the gut.



DNA study reveals dogs evolved to digest starch at the same time as ...
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-health/m...-evolved-diges...
Nov 10, 2016 -
DNA samples of ancient dog species from Europe and Asia revealed that genes for starch digesting enzymes became more widespread in ...



Diet Shaped Dog Domestication | Science | AAAS
Diet Shaped Dog Domestication | Science | AAAS
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More surprising were genes for digesting starch. Dogs had four to 30 copies of the gene for amylase, a protein that starts the breakdown of ...



Dog's dinner was key to domestication : Nature News & Comment
https://www.nature.com/news/dog-s-di...cation-1.12280
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Surprisingly, the team also found ten genes that help dogs to digest ... how dogs and humans have evolved together to be able to eat starch.” ...

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They require different things because they are different. I know most breed dogs can eat whatever but huskies can't. All of my huskies can't have grain food ever and if you don't clean the bowl out or it isn't clean they will dump it out and not eat the food. If the bowl isn't metal they will eat the bowl like they literally play with it like a toy. I've tried I wanted Fancy cute bowls for my dogs like everyone else had they tore them apart. They chew rubber bowls also. They also like to dig in their water bowls so getting anything easy to break will break. They are a pain but they are totally worth every minute of it. Grain free food is important for a couple of reasons one it makes their coat look wonderful two they have sensitive stomach they can't just eat anything they get sick. They will have diarrhea really bad and puck if it's severe.
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Arrow Iditarod dogs & racing diets / kibble-based

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[Siberians] require [a different diet] because they are different.
I know most breed dogs can eat whatever, but huskies can't. All of my huskies can't have grain food, ever ...
Grain free food is important for a couple of reasons - one, it makes their coat look wonderful; two, they have sensitive stomachs; they can't just eat anything, they get sick. They will have diarrhea really bad, & [puke] if it's severe.
I think U'd agree that the dogs running the Iditarod are mostly Huskies, or racing-line crossbreds with Pointer & other short-haired breeds, as some fraction of the dog's genetics?

Mushers feed their dogs a very high-fat diet for the race, & in training. Dogs, unlike humans, can metabolize fat directly; we must convert it to glycogen & burn the glycogen, they skip that step & simply use the fat.

Iditarod sled dogsā€™ fat burning capabilities

The dog-teams' diet is based on high-quality kibble; at each checkpoint, a hot liquid mix containing meat & melted fat is poured onto the kibble. // This is commercial kibble; nowhere could i find any mention that it is, nor needs to be, "grain-free".
Frozen wild salmon is a common snack-food for the dogs, given with the fatty skin on.

https://www.adn.com/iditarod/article...el/2016/02/18/

Metabolists are still studying sled-dogs to discover the elusive transporter that gets fat into the cell, across the membrane, to let mitochodria burn it.

Searching for secrets within the Alaska sled dog | Geophysical Institute

I found a study that investigated metabolic rate & wt-gain / loss during the Iditarod, using 3 teams, each on a different kibble:

Red Paw Power Edge 26K, made by Redpaw
Momentum, made by Dr Tim's
Caribou Creek Gold, made by, Caribou Creek Dog Food

Power Edge 1st ingredients in order are, Chicken Meal, ground pearled barley, oatmeal, brown rice, fish meal, pork meat meal, bacon fat...

Momentum contains brown rice - as the #2 ingredient, meaning the only thing in greater volume is the chicken meal [chicken meal is lower quality than 'chicken meat'].

C-Creek Gold contains corn, oat flour, brewers' rice, & wheat-germ.
All 3 contain flaxseed, an oil source which also adds high-fiber stool bulk.

Here is the study -
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4473159/

... available FREE, in full text! - a very rare thing, indeed.
Photos of their guaranteed-min crude analysis & ingredients, attached below.

Inuit dogs in Greenland are still fed a subsistence diet - fish, whale blubber, etc, & many are left to feed themselves over the nonworking summer months. If they get kibble, it's a winter-only diet - but Alaskan dogs certainly eat kibble, with grain, & mushers' dogs get kibble year-round.
No racer puts her or his team on a scavenging diet for the summer.

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They get feed raw meat in a bucket when sledding and I'm pretty certain they only have a grain free diet. You'd say I'm wrong even if I was right I'm not getting into this I own seven huskies of my own. My parents own four. We have never feed grain food to our dogs and that's why. I also work at a vet clinic Friday though Monday I get huskies in there all the time who have terrible stomach issues just because they were getting feed the wrong food. Most of the time the owners don't know it's wrong. I was trying to help them out. Terry I respect you and all but sometimes an article doesn't always give you the right answer. I know what I know because I'm living it I know it. :-):-)
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Question Could U clarify, please?

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They get feed raw meat in a bucket when sledding and I'm pretty certain they only have a grain free diet.
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Who is "they", please?
If it's dog-teams during the Iditarod, the last study cited above - FREE, in full text! - used data on 3 teams, all racing, & their base-diets were commercial kibble - 3 brands, whose ingredients are all listed.

If "they" refers to some other dogs aside from Ur own, please clarify? Thank U kindly.

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Question Any change? / Better, worse, same?

@robert7kim7 - any update? -
Please let us know what the vet says, as i'm sure others are also interested,
& a photo would also be helpful, if that's possible.

Do U use a S/S bowl, glass, enamel, ceramic, plastic?


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