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Old 05-07-2015, 05:57 AM
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My dog has chronic soft stool

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About four months ago we acquired a rescue that has many sensitivities to common ingredients found in foods. Since day one his stools have been soft. Fast forward four months, and we have since determined that he has sensitivities to chicken, turkey, duck and lamb. We finished transitioning him from a lamb based food to a salmon one about two weeks ago, but he is still having soft stools. His stool is formed and is expressed much like ideal stool, but it is just softer. Do you think over time it will firm up? He is itching much less now that he is on the salmon food, and his other symptoms such as snotty eyes and paw licking have subsided significantly (however he will get a snotty eye time to time).
The vet seems to think that everything will straighten up in due time, but I just feel awful for my pooch - I just want him to be healthy!

I am open to all suggestions. A friend recommended I add bone meal to his food, has anyone had any experience with this? Would it be on short terms or long terms?

Also, if you happen to know of any bird-free or lamb-free treats, please share! I am currently giving him freeze dried beef lung which he is loving, but I would like to find different treats to create variety! I am also on the hunt for a soft training treat free of chicken (any source of chicken, no matter how small, sends him into itch-city) or any bird for that matter.

Thank you for your consideration!
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Perhaps switching his food so much over the 4 months is why his stools are still soft. You can give him 100% pumpkin puree. Make sure it is just pumpkin and not the one with sugar added. That should help to harden his stools up. I assume you have taken him to the vet to check for parishes or other health problems that may cause the loose stools. Boxers are known for having sensitive stomach and alergies to food. It's never fun going through finding the right food but when you do its so relieving. Good luck! As far as treats we have a food dehydrated and just make our own treats. I love it because I know exactly what goes into our dog treats.. there are also so many treat recipes online. Just do a Google search and type in grain free dog treat recipies.
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Congrats on the new addition and much kudos to you for doing your utmost to get him on the road to good health!!

I've had to move all three of mine to a grain free diet, and right now we're on Taste of the Wild, a FANTASTIC kibble that comes in several varieties including salmon, I'm pretty sure. (We get it at Farm and Home or Big R; Walmart only carries crap that is horrible for your dog) We're on the venison/bison mixture because it's supposed to be very good for dogs with skin sensitivities, and I'm pleased to say has been most excellent for my youngest, who has had much trouble with that in the past. (I also cook up a topper in my big stock pot and throw in whatever is handy; chicken, pork, venison, carrots, potatoes, misc. veggies - I freeze portions in our deep freeze and take them out when necessary - and they get a ladle or so with their supper)

I give prunes to help my youngest (Spicey) as she has anal gland problems, and as boxer321 has mentioned, pumpkin is also very good to firm up stools which helps dogs express their anal glands when they do their business. So, firming up stools in this manner is beneficial in a number of ways! I only have to give the prunes every few days, but in your case it might have to be more often.

I found this grain-free treat recipe which is VERY forgiving (if you have extra banana or peanut butter, they still bake up terrific), and super easy to make. I don't use the cookie cutter as the dough is extremely sticky, but just wet my fingers every so often and press the dough to the cookie pan. My dogs love these after our morning walks.

Hope this helps!
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I'd give the new food at least 2 more weeks, if not another month, to really get a good sense if it's working for your dog.

If it's not Fromm, Acana, Merrick, Taste of the Wild, and Zignature all have foods that are completely poultry free. If all else fails you can switch to The Honest Kitchen base mix and add your own meat to it.

Zuke's makes some poultry free treats, as does Fruitables and Orijen

Zuke's Mini Naturals Fresh Peanut Butter Formula Dog Treats, 1-lb bag
Zuke's Lil' Links Rabbit & Apple Recipe Dog Treats, 6-oz, bag
Zuke's Jerky Naturals Tender Beef Recipe Dog Treats, 6-oz
Fruitables Pumpkin & Apple Flavor Crunchy Dog Treats, 7-oz bag
Fruitables Whole Jerky Grilled Bison Strips Dog Treats, 5-oz bag
Orijen Alberta Wild Boar Singles Freeze-Dried Dog Treats, 3.5-oz bag
Orijen Black Angus Beef Singles Freeze-Dried Dog Treats, 2-oz bag

The links I used are to the ingredients list in the products. You can use the Chewy site to search for a pet food your interested in and look up the ingredients.
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Perhaps switching his food so much over the 4 months is why his stools are still soft. You can give him 100% pumpkin puree. Make sure it is just pumpkin and not the one with sugar added. That should help to harden his stools up. I assume you have taken him to the vet to check for parishes or other health problems that may cause the loose stools. Boxers are known for having sensitive stomach and alergies to food. It's never fun going through finding the right food but when you do its so relieving. Good luck! As far as treats we have a food dehydrated and just make our own treats. I love it because I know exactly what goes into our dog treats.. there are also so many treat recipes online. Just do a Google search and type in grain free dog treat recipies.
Thanks! We actually tried the pumpkin puree when Drew was having digestive issues on the chicken based food, and it helped some. I had bought a stockpile of it when it was on a phenomenal sale at a grocery store and have been freezing it in treat toys and ice trays for him since the weather is warming up here. He gets a treat toy after breakfast and two ice cubes after dinner which works out to about 2-3 tbsp with each meal.
The first thing I did when I noticed the stool problem was contact Drew's vet, he has a clean bill of health with the exception of his food sensitivities, and all food changes have been done as per recommendation of his veterinarian.
We aren't sure what breed he is - he was the 'shelter special,' said to be a lab/border collie mix, but people have speculated that he has great dane, pit bull, greyhound... the list goes on! He's more than likely just sensitive by nature.
I do have a few treat recipes that I have tried, guess I'll just have to put my baker's hat on and get baking! A food dehydrator is a great idea, do you put veggies in there as well as meat?
Thank you so much for your help!


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Congrats on the new addition and much kudos to you for doing your utmost to get him on the road to good health!!

I've had to move all three of mine to a grain free diet, and right now we're on Taste of the Wild, a FANTASTIC kibble that comes in several varieties including salmon, I'm pretty sure. (We get it at Farm and Home or Big R; Walmart only carries crap that is horrible for your dog) We're on the venison/bison mixture because it's supposed to be very good for dogs with skin sensitivities, and I'm pleased to say has been most excellent for my youngest, who has had much trouble with that in the past. (I also cook up a topper in my big stock pot and throw in whatever is handy; chicken, pork, venison, carrots, potatoes, misc. veggies - I freeze portions in our deep freeze and take them out when necessary - and they get a ladle or so with their supper)

I give prunes to help my youngest (Spicey) as she has anal gland problems, and as boxer321 has mentioned, pumpkin is also very good to firm up stools which helps dogs express their anal glands when they do their business. So, firming up stools in this manner is beneficial in a number of ways! I only have to give the prunes every few days, but in your case it might have to be more often.

I found this grain-free treat recipe which is VERY forgiving (if you have extra banana or peanut butter, they still bake up terrific), and super easy to make. I don't use the cookie cutter as the dough is extremely sticky, but just wet my fingers every so often and press the dough to the cookie pan. My dogs love these after our morning walks.

Hope this helps!
Thank you so very much! I just want my pup to be happy and healthy - he's my fur baby!
At this point, Drew's vet is hesitant to put him on a grain free diet. The vet, believe it or not, specifically recommended Tractor Supply's 4health food in the salmon and potato recipe (surprising, seeing as I am willing to spend the money on ToTW or other comparable foods) citing that at this point grain free may be too rich for him. If Drew does well on this food for 5-6 months, then we can *slowly* begin to introduce a grain free salmon food into his diet and see how he handles it.
Prunes are a great idea! Do you give them basic dried prunes found at the supermarket? I haven't noticed Drew having any difficulty expressing his anal glands, however he does give himself a cleaning back there every once in a blue moon.
Thank you for the recipe! I have a feeling I will be having a baking marathon soon to sample tons of recipes and see which ones Drew prefers!
Thank you again for your help!

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I'd give the new food at least 2 more weeks, if not another month, to really get a good sense if it's working for your dog.

If it's not Fromm, Acana, Merrick, Taste of the Wild, and Zignature all have foods that are completely poultry free. If all else fails you can switch to The Honest Kitchen base mix and add your own meat to it.

Zuke's makes some poultry free treats, as does Fruitables and Orijen

Zuke's Mini Naturals Fresh Peanut Butter Formula Dog Treats, 1-lb bag
Zuke's Lil' Links Rabbit & Apple Recipe Dog Treats, 6-oz, bag
Zuke's Jerky Naturals Tender Beef Recipe Dog Treats, 6-oz
Fruitables Pumpkin & Apple Flavor Crunchy Dog Treats, 7-oz bag
Fruitables Whole Jerky Grilled Bison Strips Dog Treats, 5-oz bag
Orijen Alberta Wild Boar Singles Freeze-Dried Dog Treats, 3.5-oz bag
Orijen Black Angus Beef Singles Freeze-Dried Dog Treats, 2-oz bag

The links I used are to the ingredients list in the products. You can use the Chewy site to search for a pet food your interested in and look up the ingredients.
Thank you for advice and all those chicken free treats! I had been looking at Zuke's training treats so I am glad to hear they are chicken free! I am planning on sticking with this food for another 5-6 months at least, the vet thinks that everything will firm up within that time and then hopefully then we will be able to very slow transition to a grain free food. The food he is on now is completely poultry free, so there are no worries in that respect.
Thanks again!


A massive thank you for all of your help I am trying my best to do what is right by my dog, and you have reassured me that I am not going crazy (yet!) and I appreciate all the suggestions and feedback!
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Prunes are a great idea! Do you give them basic dried prunes found at the supermarket? I haven't noticed Drew having any difficulty expressing his anal glands, however he does give himself a cleaning back there every once in a blue moon.
Thank you for the recipe! I have a feeling I will be having a baking marathon soon to sample tons of recipes and see which ones Drew prefers!
Thank you again for your help!

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A massive thank you for all of your help I am trying my best to do what is right by my dog, and you have reassured me that I am not going crazy (yet!) and I appreciate all the suggestions and feedback!
When going for prunes, make sure they have no sulfites (preservatives), which means going organic. I get Newman's Own, as the only thing on the ingredients list is.... prunes! They save great in the freezer, I just pull a new bag out when I need one. I go back and forth between
Amazon Amazon
and Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Newman-s-Own-Organics-The-Second-Generation-Organic-Dried-Prunes-6-oz-12pk-Pack-of-12/17194272. I don't know why editing wont let me hotlink that WM link... *sigh* (Those are the 6 oz bags, but
the 12 oz bags the 12 oz bags
are a better deal per oz. At the moment, Amazon is the less expensive by almost $20 if you get 12 of the 12 oz bags, which lasts me quite awhile.)

It's easy to tell that you want the best for your babies, as we all do! Please let us know how it all works out! There's sooooo many stories which we wish we knew what happened.
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When going for prunes, make sure they have no sulfites (preservatives), which means going organic. I get Newman's Own, as the only thing on the ingredients list is.... prunes! They save great in the freezer, I just pull a new bag out when I need one. I go back and forth between Amazon and Walmart (Walmart). I don't know why editing wont let me hotlink that WM link... *sigh* (Those are the 6 oz bags, but the 12 oz bags are a better deal per oz. At the moment, Amazon is the less expensive by almost $20 if you get 12 of the 12 oz bags, which lasts me quite awhile.)

It's easy to tell that you want the best for your babies, as we all do! Please let us know how it all works out! There's sooooo many stories which we wish we knew what happened.
Great - thank you! I will run to WM tomorrow after work to pick up a few packages of organic prunes to make sure he will eat them first (I'm sure he will, but you never know) and if we have success I will place an order on Amazon for them - that's a great price for prunes!

Thank you again for your help! I will be sure to keep you updated on his situation as the weeks progress. I'm just relieved that at this point he isn't itchy and miserable - the poop was the least of my worries a few weeks ago!
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Brace yourself, as the organic, non-preservative kinds of prunes are kind of gooey, sometimes. And some are rather largish, so I cut them up into smaller pieces before I mix them into their supper dishes, that way you can be sure there's no pit slivers left too. I've never run into any, but they warn you about them on the packages, just in case.

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Good news!

Drew's stool is lookin' good

He didn't end up liking the prunes too much, he would eat them but only after he partially chewed the prune piece and then proceed to smear the gooey, sticky prune half way across the floor while he licked it. Every so often he will lick the hardwood, so clearly there is still some prune on the floor.

Thank you for all your suggestions, and Drew thanks you too! He's suddenly got a lot of extra energy, and I have a feeling it's due to the fact that he's chicken and lamb free - finally! I wish dogs could talk, we would have had this sorted out long ago.
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Good news!

Drew's stool is lookin' good

He didn't end up liking the prunes too much, he would eat them but only after he partially chewed the prune piece and then proceed to smear the gooey, sticky prune half way across the floor while he licked it. Every so often he will lick the hardwood, so clearly there is still some prune on the floor.

Thank you for all your suggestions, and Drew thanks you too! He's suddenly got a lot of extra energy, and I have a feeling it's due to the fact that he's chicken and lamb free - finally! I wish dogs could talk, we would have had this sorted out long ago.
HOOORAAYY!! I love happy endings! I also got a giggle out of the leftover prunes part of your story. *snicker*

Could we see a pic of the happy puppy?
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