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Old 02-26-2017, 08:37 AM
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My Lexi has a large wound that we have the vet doing honey bandages on. She goes to the vet every 2 days to get bandage changes. Of course the vet is using Organic Unfiltered Clover Honey.

I would really like to try Manuka Honey.

However, I understand that there are a few things to consider with Manuka Honey.

1. NPA
2. MGO
3. UMF

I've watched every video that Dr. Peter Molan has out there. He never suggests a brand.

Has anyone used Manuka Honey to heal a large wound?

If so, what brand did you use?

Please tell me about your wound care experience.

Thanks!
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Here are pictures of Lexi's wound
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Wow, that actually looks like great progress! Your vet seems like they are doing really good work. I would continue working with them and their suggestions which may change at this stage because there is a little hypergranulation tissue which means slowing the healing process for a while then coming back to it.

I would talk to your vet about manuka honey, this wound is healing and clean so it may not bring anything additional to the process.

Since you asked: I am a podiatrist, my experience with wounds is from the many I see from, pressure, trauma, poor blood flow etc... That said none of what I've seen is with dogs.
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PS: I know it's bigger than before but it lacks the dead tissue and pus that was worrying in the previous photos. And there are no inflamed edges which is good.
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Wow, that actually looks like great progress! Your vet seems like they are doing really good work. I would continue working with them and their suggestions which may change at this stage because there is a little hypergranulation tissue which means slowing the healing process for a while then coming back to it.

I would talk to your vet about manuka honey, this wound is healing and clean so it may not bring anything additional to the process.

Since you asked: I am a podiatrist, my experience with wounds is from the many I see from, pressure, trauma, poor blood flow etc... That said none of what I've seen is with dogs.
Thanks Chas! I did talk to my vet about the Manuka Honey. She isn't familiar with it. She said if I send her links of the Manuka Honey I'm thinking about, that she would take a look. Right now we are sticking to the Organic Unfiltered Clover Honey.

The pictures taken are before the wound was cleaned. Not sure if that makes a difference. My husband & I were shown how to do the bandage changes. We did 1 bandage change and sent photos to the vet. The vet really scrubbed the wound when she cleaned it. I was like "wow"! She said that the wound is likely itchy more than anything else. It didn't seem to bother Lexi one bit. Although to me it looked painful.

I appreciate everyone's input here!
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That's even better, very nice wound bed. Debridement/cleaning can look totally drastic, I most often do it with a scalpel, it can look terrifying it's just taking off dead stuff and debris though. (not something I'd advise doing on a dog yikes!) Given how deep it is it probably doesn't hurt much, it will start to itch more as the new skin forms though because that's where the nerves will start infiltrating.
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http://www.woundsresearch.com/articl...wound-dressing This article is a clinical study and it explains what it is that is different between what Manuka Honey is capable of and regular honey.

This article goes a bit into what you need to look for in Manuka Honey when you are going to use it for wound care. Manuka Honey: Medicinal Uses, Benefits, and Side Effects You want a UMF of 10 or more.

This article goes more into how to use the Manuka Honey to treat wounds and what you are looking for in the honey. Basically it also states a UMF of 10 or more and if the wound's infected you want it to be medical grade because then it will be sterilized Honey in wound care | DermNet New Zealand

A few years back, when I had decided to try some for an infection I had that would not clear up, this is the Manuka Honey that I finally settled on. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It has over all great reviews, including many from people who had used it for wound care, and had a high enough MGO rating for it to work in wound care. I would have loved to get the Honey rated MGO 550 in that brand but I simply could not afford it at that time. Reading some more recent reviews it looks like there might be a quality control issue going on with it.

Speaking of MGO, here is a page the explains what it is, which company uses it, and how to compare it to a UMF rating. https://export-x.com/manuka-honey-um...go-calculator/

Last but not least, here's a link for Manuka Honey with a UMF rating https://www.amazon.com/Kiva-Certifie...t_sims?ie=UTF8


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http://www.woundsresearch.com/articl...wound-dressing This article is a clinical study and it explains what it is that is different between what Manuka Honey is capable of and regular honey.

This article goes a bit into what you need to look for in Manuka Honey when you are going to use it for wound care. Manuka Honey: Medicinal Uses, Benefits, and Side Effects You want a UMF of 10 or more.

This article goes more into how to use the Manuka Honey to treat wounds and what you are looking for in the honey. Basically it also states a UMF of 10 or more and if the wound's infected you want it to be medical grade because then it will be sterilized Honey in wound care | DermNet New Zealand

A few years back, when I had decided to try some for an infection I had that would not clear up, this is the Manuka Honey that I finally settled on. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It has over all great reviews, including many from people who had used it for wound care, and had a high enough MGO rating for it to work in wound care. I would have loved to get the Honey rated MGO 550 in that brand but I simply could not afford it at that time. Reading some more recent reviews it looks like there might be a quality control issue going on with it.

Speaking of MGO, here is a page the explains what it is, which company uses it, and how to compare it to a UMF rating. https://export-x.com/manuka-honey-um...go-calculator/

Last but not least, here's a link for Manuka Honey with a UMF rating https://www.amazon.com/Kiva-Certifie...t_sims?ie=UTF8


This is awesome info! Thank you! I have watched all the Dr. Peter Molan videos. I have yet to find a honey that has the label with both the MGO & NPA label on it. But, you posted a MGO/NPA converter!

This one was good in explaining how to chose Manuka Honey and how important the MGO & NPA is:
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This is awesome info! Thank you! I have watched all the Dr. Peter Molan videos. I have yet to find a honey that has the label with both the MGO & NPA label on it. But, you posted a MGO/NPA converter!

This one was good in explaining how to chose Manuka Honey and how important the MGO & NPA is:
MrBoni.de Dr Peter Molan about Manuka Honey - YouTube
You're welcome!

I'm thinking that NPA and UMF might be able to be used interchangeably, but I'm still not positive https://happyvalleynz.wordpress.com/...manuka-ratings.

One thing I am positive about is that you'll never find both MGO and UMF/NPA on the same label. Each are owned by different groups. Active Manuka Honey, MGO, UMF, NPA know what you are buying - Bees & Trees Honey
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You're welcome!

I'm thinking that NPA and UMF might be able to be used interchangeably, but I'm still not positive https://happyvalleynz.wordpress.com/...manuka-ratings.

One thing I am positive about is that you'll never find both MGO and UMF/NPA on the same label. Each are owned by different groups. Active Manuka Honey, MGO, UMF, NPA know what you are buying - Bees & Trees Honey
This helps tremendously!!! I was very confused with UMF, NPA, & MGO. I was driving myself crazy trying to find a Manuka Honey that had all 3 of these on the same label. This was super helpful. Thank YOU!
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