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Old 05-06-2017, 03:33 PM
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Hi everyone,

My pup, Cooper, is 5 months old and he was scheduled to be neutered next week, so we had some pre-surgical blood work done to check his liver and kidneys. The doctor called me this morning and said that his kidney enzymes were high (by one point) and asked me if he has regular access to water. I told her yes, he drinks like crazy, and we never leave without making sure he has a full water bowl. In fact, I brought up his insatiable thirst during he vaccine appointments because I've never had a dog that drinks so much.

I asked her what we need to do, and what it means, and she said she doesn't know what it means yet, and we should have labs done again in a few weeks. In the meantime, we reset his neuter for the end of the month, depending on his next round of blood work.

The doctor said she was "stumped" as to what it could mean, and said maybe he would need a panel designed for older dogs, and checked on a yearly or bi-yearly basis.

I don't know much about the kidneys, and google says renal failure. But he's a puppy. Can this happen in puppies?
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Sure can... happens to dogs and cats of any age... but if truly renal failure at 5 months, that is a congenital defect. However, I would recheck the values before getting too excited as sometimes there is lab error, or just a day when the values are higher than normal and they may drop back into the normal range again. You never know.
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Have the vet do a urinalysis. In my opinion, it is much more indicative of kidney function rather than blood work, especially in early renal disease. There will be some elevation is BUN on occasion in young, growing dogs due to bone growth, but the Creatinine should not have elevated. Better to be aggressive in finding out what is going on than waiting until your pup gets sick. Good luck.
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Have the vet do a urinalysis. In my opinion, it is much more indicative of kidney function rather than blood work, especially in early renal disease. There will be some elevation is BUN on occasion in young, growing dogs due to bone growth, but the Creatinine should not have elevated. Better to be aggressive in finding out what is going on than waiting until your pup gets sick. Good luck.
I will ask our vet for a urinalysis when we get his blood work done again on the 25th. Thank you for the advice!
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This is interesting because I am going through a very similar thing with my dog - the difference being she's 13 .

She got a couple of teeth pulled and her bloodwork then showed slightly high kidney enzymes. A month later they rechecked and they were a bit higher and her liver levels were a little high as well. She will now be going for an abdominal ultrasound and urinalysis to see if something's up.

I'm not really sure what the next steps will be if there is something wrong. She's been put on prescription food for now. Hopefully it's nothing too big or something easily managed.

I had a Sheltie die of renal failure and it was not a pretty picture. However, I think he could have lived longer (maybe) if we had caught it earlier. Our previous vet didn't do bloodwork - even if you requested it, which is why I left - so they never caught it and honestly just assumed that's what was going on based on the symptoms.
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Sure can... happens to dogs and cats of any age... but if truly renal failure at 5 months, that is a congenital defect. However, I would recheck the values before getting too excited as sometimes there is lab error, or just a day when the values are higher than normal and they may drop back into the normal range again. You never know.
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Have the vet do a urinalysis. In my opinion, it is much more indicative of kidney function rather than blood work, especially in early renal disease. There will be some elevation is BUN on occasion in young, growing dogs due to bone growth, but the Creatinine should not have elevated. Better to be aggressive in finding out what is going on than waiting until your pup gets sick. Good luck.
^What they said. One point is not always that significant and some pets sometimes just normally run higher or lower than the normals. We always remind people that they don't read the books and clinical signs are more medically significant than the exact numbers.

On a side note the handful of dogs that I have seen with congenital renal disease have all been Lab or Golden doodle mixes. Not sure if Izrddr or Dr T have noticed this trend in their patients, but that's just been my experience.
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