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Old 01-10-2018, 07:35 PM
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October 2017 we moved to downtown Toronto. February 2017 my Australian Sheppard mini who was extremely healthy got kennel cough. It never really went away until months of different medication and it got worse once she started medication for a while. Once the cough subsided she began to have green snot coming from either nostril or both at the same time and this still occurs.

The vet said it was downtown and she should go back to the suburbs and in a month or 2 she would go back to normal, that didn't work. She tried benedryl, prednisone, doxycycline, baytril, and the inhalers for cough suppressant and for inflammation, NONE of this worked at all. They did fecal tests, x-rays from two different vets, looked inside the nostrils, checked heart beat, put a scope into her and they said nothing looks wrong but it is most likely lower airway disease or allergies.

I've spent almost $3,500 trying to get her back to normal and nothing has come of it. The last drug to try is apoquel but I can't afford it yet.

Her symptoms occur at random times and there is no common factor that sets it off. She barely coughs, she mostly snorts because of the phlegm, she sneezes a lot, shakes her head, and has fits that last up to 10 seconds where it sounds like shes choking on her phlegm and struggling to breathe.

This is a photo of what the snot started out looking like, but right now it changes between that color and booger green.

https://imgur.com/a/6kW6j

I'm really desperate to find someone else who has experience with this or any insight because I've been all over youtube looking and the internet and I can't find anything that describes what my dog has.

I will post a video and more pictures if I have to I would just greatly appreciate any insight please and thank you.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:00 PM
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Maybe she has allergies, I would try to look into that. Also the head shaking could indicate an ear infection, that may also plug up her sinuses. Soo if it was my pup I would look into getting her ears checked and if those are fine then maybe see if she is allergic to anything.
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Might be worth your while to see an internal medicine specialist. My first dachshund (she died in 2016 at 18 y/o) had chronic sinusitis for over 8 years. Hers started after a swim in freezing (literally pieces of ice floating around her) bay water, and waxed and waned for a few years before finally becoming constant. A culture of her snot indicated that she had staph present in there, but it never resolved despite months of treatment with antibiotics it was supposedly sensitive to. It would change some with the seasons, but was persistent pretty much year round. I had dentistries done as my vet- who I worked for- thought her nasty teeth (she had a regular dentals, but rebuilt tartar pretty quickly) could be contributory, but that didn't seem to make much difference. Examination of her mouth, throat, etc under sedation revealed no obvious issue, but there could have been something (polyp, tumor, ???) further in there that was contributing to her issues. It never seemed to bother her, and didn't become severe until she was quite old (14+), by then I was reluctant to pursue advanced imaging and other more invasive diagnostics.

In hindsight, if I ever again have a dog with a persistent snot issue, I'd probably try to have my vet culture and treat accordingly first, and if that didn't work, bite the bullet and see a specialist at that point, rather than waiting. That said, I had a kitten with a snotting problem from a few weeks old (I adopted her to a family member so I could keep tabs on her), and had a snot sample collected when she was spayed to have cultured- came up negative for bacteria, which was sort of bewildering and disappointing, as I was hoping for an answer and "easy" solution. Vet suggested it could be something anatomical, allergic response, or viral (FIV/FeLV neg), and recommended just monitoring and managing symptoms as my aunt was reluctant to pursue further since the kitten (now cat) was happy, eating, playful. Strangely, her issue resolved for several months after being spayed (Maybe related to ET tube/anesthesia? My vet couldn't explain it), but eventually returned, though it is sporadic, and varies in intensity.

Are you in an area where foreign bodies (seeds, grass awns, etc) could be an issue? If so, might be worthwhile to investigate that route. I hope you find a cause, and it has an easy resolution
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Maybe she has allergies, I would try to look into that. Also the head shaking could indicate an ear infection, that may also plug up her sinuses. Soo if it was my pup I would look into getting her ears checked and if those are fine then maybe see if she is allergic to anything.
So I forgot to mention the vet did check her ears and said they were fine. See I thought of allergies as well, my vet said it could be allergies, but they also said once the weather changed to cold her symptoms would disappear, which they haven't .

I asked about the allergy test last time I was there and they said even with the allergy test it could be so many different things that it basically wouldn't really help.
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Might be worth your while to see an internal medicine specialist. My first dachshund (she died in 2016 at 18 y/o) had chronic sinusitis for over 8 years. Hers started after a swim in freezing (literally pieces of ice floating around her) bay water, and waxed and waned for a few years before finally becoming constant. A culture of her snot indicated that she had staph present in there, but it never resolved despite months of treatment with antibiotics it was supposedly sensitive to. It would change some with the seasons, but was persistent pretty much year round. I had dentistries done as my vet- who I worked for- thought her nasty teeth (she had a regular dentals, but rebuilt tartar pretty quickly) could be contributory, but that didn't seem to make much difference. Examination of her mouth, throat, etc under sedation revealed no obvious issue, but there could have been something (polyp, tumor, ???) further in there that was contributing to her issues. It never seemed to bother her, and didn't become severe until she was quite old (14+), by then I was reluctant to pursue advanced imaging and other more invasive diagnostics.

In hindsight, if I ever again have a dog with a persistent snot issue, I'd probably try to have my vet culture and treat accordingly first, and if that didn't work, bite the bullet and see a specialist at that point, rather than waiting. That said, I had a kitten with a snotting problem from a few weeks old (I adopted her to a family member so I could keep tabs on her), and had a snot sample collected when she was spayed to have cultured- came up negative for bacteria, which was sort of bewildering and disappointing, as I was hoping for an answer and "easy" solution. Vet suggested it could be something anatomical, allergic response, or viral (FIV/FeLV neg), and recommended just monitoring and managing symptoms as my aunt was reluctant to pursue further since the kitten (now cat) was happy, eating, playful. Strangely, her issue resolved for several months after being spayed (Maybe related to ET tube/anesthesia? My vet couldn't explain it), but eventually returned, though it is sporadic, and varies in intensity.

Are you in an area where foreign bodies (seeds, grass awns, etc) could be an issue? If so, might be worthwhile to investigate that route. I hope you find a cause, and it has an easy resolution
Sorry to hear about your dog. I failed to mention she had a bacterial culture taken and tested which came back negative for anything.

Currently she is in the suburbs where she either walks through residential areas/park. She had always been fine in that area until we moved downtown which is much dirtier, way more cars and dogs, and less grassy area.

The vet had said that it was probably the kennel cough that weakened her immune system and allowed this other condition to begin and persist.

I appreciate the help and insight very much.
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