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Old 06-05-2019, 06:28 PM
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The horrible holistic vet visit with my soulmate dog Athena

Hi again!

I am sooooo completely happy to hear that your dog Shannon is eating well again! That is fantastic news! I will hope for continued success for both of you!

Thank you for your kind words about Athena. I am sorry about your kitty. It was so incredibly difficult for me. I tired everything to heal her or just make her feel better. In fact, ironically, that is how I originally found this forum! I was so desperate for answers after several vets couldn't really figure it out, that I went online to begin studying her symptoms and see if I could find any info to help us.

As for the holistic vet disaster....

First off, I am not at all knocking any vets at all, holistic or otherwise. Everyone is different.
And this holistic vet came highly recommended to me. Maybe we just had a horrible experience. Who knows?
Would I try another holistic vet in the future? Probably so.

Anyway, it was a very cold winter day. I had to close my shop(all day-so no income) to drive way across town to this holistic vet. I made an appt bc I wanted to be sure Athena would be seen. I told them on phone that Athena was diagnosed with severe pancreatitis and possibly something like stomach cancer, and that she was throwing up (bile only) every few hours. She HAD to eat at certain intervals or she would throw up again which was dangerous for her. I was carefully home cooking all her food at this point and hand feeding her. And I was journaling every bite she ate, every time she threw up, every med the vets threw at her, everything about this medical "journey" or whatever you call it.

The holistic vet was super, super "busy" that day and kept us waiting for ever. They left my poor Athena to lay on the freezing cold tile floor with no blanket offered. For hours while they ran around trying to help other clients. Grrrr. I had emphatically told them I needed to be seen at my appt time (or close to it) so I could time her food intake, and thus prevent the vomiting. Well because they went over by hours, she indeed threw up again in their office...and they then seem annoyed! Whaaaaat??

The main reason I went there was to ask a zillion questions from an "expert" so I could stop guessing about what to feed her/what to medicate her with.
I wanted some holistic meds to soothe her stomach, stop the vomiting.

I carefully wrote all my questions down in order of importance. Well basically the vet answered the first few-- and then in the middle of me asking my questions, she left the room. Again. She would come in for a moment, then leave. We were left alone for a crazy amount of time waiting, so I finally left the room and asked the front desk people what happened. Ohhh, blablabla.

The tech finally came in, left agin, came back later, and read the bloodwork test results instead of the vet. "Sorry, Vet was busy" was his answer. But I wanted to see the actual vet----that is who I was paying the big bucks for and had lost my whole days income for--- while my poor sweet dog lay on a cold hard miserable floor for hours. Sigh. I think I cried for a long time after that appointment. It was dark out when we left for our trek home. And I hate driving in the dark, especially across town in areas that are unfamiliar to me. And my significant other was out of town, to boot. Sigh.

Our experience that terrible day? No real answers, more heartbreaking throw up, poor customer service, lots of money gone, inhumane treatment on that cold floor, but mostly----NO HOPE.

Sorry to be a total bummer with this post. You asked. I wasn't going to mention the reasons, but what the hell? It happened. It didn't have to bet that way at all. They should have seen us, run the bloodwork, answered my questions, and then sent my very sick, sweet beyond belief, Athena dog home to our cozy warm home. Not kept her for hours on a bare cold tile floor. Who does that, especially to a sick dog?

Brings tears to my eyes as I think about how Athena suffered in her illness, but was so incredibly graceful every moment. And loving. Gosh I loved that dog, may she rest in peace.

Sending only healing thoughts and continued healthy happy eating to your beloved Shannon. You both deserve it. I can tell you love your dog like I love my Athena and all my dogs.

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Old 06-05-2019, 08:40 PM
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Well, I am so elated, Shannon has been eating very well since Friday!!! This did happen once before this past year, she ate real good for 3 weeks then stopped. It has caused her to have a few poo accidents in the house but I don't care, she's eating, that's what counts!!!

Her water intake has always been very good, thank goodness I haven't had to worry about that. As far as nausea, there is nothing to indicate that she is but how would one know? She never vomits and if I happen to hit upon something that strikes her fancy at that particular moment, she will eat it with gusto and ask for more. This, after turning down other food. I think she is just being spoiled and picky but to the point of losing this much weight? I have read where a dog will not starve itself but have my doubts at times with her.

Laco, I see you are from So. Cal. I grew up in Newport Beach. Miss it. Where you at?

Poor Athena, sounds like my last cat who went through similar. I am so very sorry for what you endured and can honestly say, I know the pain of what you went thru. I have been there many times with my babies! It is every bit as painful as losing a human loved one and no one can tell me different.

I would give anything to have a holistic vet nearby, here in SE Wisconsin, they don't exist. Have thought for years I would prefer one. Actually, AthenaLove, I would be curious to know why that turned out to be a mistake for you if you don't mind sharing. I did express my concerns to my vet about the NSAIDS and they do understand. He said that if she seems to be doing okay I can try to take her off for awhile. Plus he said that every 6 months he wants to recheck her blood work as this will tell him if there is any problem with the NSAIDs as well as just see how she is doing. I am surprised overall that they aren't more concerned about the weight loss. I haven't worked up the courage to ask him about the CDB oil.

I've considered the second opinion thing myself. She is still eating good right now fortunately. I hope it lasts. For some reason Taste of the Wild can dog food has hit the spot real big this past week. If she stops eating again and before her next appointment for blood work, I may decide to check with another vet. As far as traditional vets go, he does seem pretty okay, though.

Pray with me that she keeps eating like this! Thank you!
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So glad she is doing better, certainly hope it lasts. As long as she is eating, drinking and eliminating ok, she should be ok.


I really know how you feel, both the helplessness when they are not doing well, and the feeling of relief and satisfaction when they do better. We have really been though it with ours this past year. She, just about a year ago, could barely walk or move and was crying in pain. Our Vet concluded it was neurological and sent us to a neurology center in Tustin. She was diagnosed with an auto-immune disorder, that caused her immune system to attack her central nervous system. She was put on huge doses of medication, including steroids, and suffered from both the disease and the horrible side effects from all the medication. I am happy to report, that at her annual neurological checkup, last month, her neurologist said she was in full remission. We still give her small doses of maintenance medication, and most likely will for the rest of her life, but right now she is doing quite well. I only lay all this out, so you can see that when I say, I completely understand what you are going through, I really do, and have been though some of that with ours too.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:34 AM
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Nutrition

I think nutrition is probably the right avenue. There are a number of products that have shown to assist in helping out with disease/serious conditions with dogs like yours. I've used Buddy Custard and the nutritional benefits have been impactful for my pup. Something to think about.
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Old 06-17-2019, 11:35 AM
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Does anyone know how soon grinding up dry kibble with water to make a paste will cause a break down of it's nutritional value? Couldn't find anything online about this.

Long story short, after a week Shannon quit eating again but have since found that she will let me feed her with an oral dosing syringe. First thing come to mind was some sort of tooth or mouth problem but vet checked, nothing. Okay, so we feed her this way, definitely not hassle-free, but hey, she eats! She will let me feed her anything with the syringes so everything goes in the tube, food, supplements, vitamins, turmeric, etc. long as I can get it pureed enough to go thru the hole.

Right now I puree only enough that she will consume in a 24 hour period. If I could go for a larger batch that would help but my concern is the nutritional break down. Tried switching to can but with dry kibble as the base and pumpkin I've been able to keep her from diarrhea.

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Old 06-17-2019, 12:05 PM
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Somehow over the last dozen days or so I missed the last 4 replies! I'm so sorry, I guess you have to actually log in to see new posts. I didn't think you had to.

AthenaLove, my heart absolutely broke reading your experience with that vet and with precious Athena. And the fact that it took me so long to see it makes it worse. Good gosh, my vet always has rubber mats and a ton of large towels on hand. That was indeed a bad experience!! You and Athena should have never been treated that way I don't care how busy they are!!! I do certainly hope that that is an isolated instance and not something that happens often out there in the world. I'm just sorry it happened to you and Athena. That was difficult to keep the eyes dry when I read "Gosh I loved that dog, may she rest in peace." I KNOW that cry of the heart for it has been my own in the past.

My Cady (cat similar to Athena's condition) started throwing up alot too. I believe now after reading your post that it was probably her pancreas as they found out later, she only had about 10 percent of it left. I saw the x-ray.

Thank you for sharing you heart AthenaLove. I am so sorry I missed the posts. Until I actually logged in just now, I did not see them.

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Laco, your situation sounds very similar almost identical to the terrier of an engineer I sit next to at work! She is just barely two years old. Glad to hear that something is keeping your little one as well as can be and that she is in remission. Let us hope it stays that way. Yes, I see that you do understand. It is helpful to share and I thank you!

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Dog Mom87,

Thank you for sharing this! I just looked up their website and was all aboard with it, especially since my collie prefers cold and frozen to room temperature or heated food. Well, it must be great stuff because I went to order and they are currently out of stock.

Again, thank you for sharing this as Shannon loves ice cream and I don't like giving her that with the sugars but believe this will be a great substitute I may be able to switch to.

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Could I see a picture of her? Does she ever walk around or just lay down?
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