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Old 05-03-2017, 08:51 AM
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Getting MRI for collapsed disc

I'm scared to get a MRI for my nine-year old yorkiepoo next Wed. I'm afraid they are going to scare me into surgery, which I'm trying to avoid. Three weeks ago she must have injured herself and has a collapsed disc in C-2, cervical, neck. She's on prednisone and she wants to run, jump, etc. My husband has been taking her for walks over my objection that she needs rest. I've given her seven laser therapy treatments and starting acupuncture today. I just want my baby normal again. This event has taken me into really bad depression. She has given me so much love as we've never had children. Any input is appreciated from dog lovers who've had this type of injury. Ty
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:09 AM
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The MRI will provide the Vet with information necessary for developing a treatment plan. If she is responding to the prednisone, that means the inflammation is reduced, which will make her feel better, less pain. Surgery is not always required, depending on the nature of the injury, conservative treatment may be all that is required, but more information is necessary for your Vet to know what to recommend next.
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Thank you. I pray over her every day.
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I'm still concerned about them being knife happy and wanting to do the ventral slot surgery to "teach" students. I'm just leery about the whole thing. We are going to WSU, vet hospital at the university.
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WSU has one of the better Vet programs out there. Part of the teaching process involves learning to recognize there can be more then one way to address any given problem, while still achieving a good outcome. Make very clear, that you only want to look at a surgical solution as the last possible option, and only after all conservative treatment options have been evaluated, trying any and all appropriate ones. Best of luck, let us know how she is doing and the treatment plan.
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:41 PM
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I wouldn't be frightened of the MRI and I also wouldn't recommend surgery at this point. Remember, no one can make a decision for your pet other than you, no matter what any vet has to say. I have worked on hundreds of dogs that were paralyzed or partially paralyzed due to ruptured IV disc and spinal cord damage. From a conventional perspective, if the cord is damaged and the MRI suggests that it still has some function, surgery is the best option. Remember, there are no guarantees with any surgery, especially those regarding the spinal cord. I have seen dogs unable to walk go to surgery and come out walking. I have seen dogs go into surgery walking and come out unable to walk.

From a conventional perspective, the opinion is that spinal cord tissue is incapable of regeneration. This is why so many people with spinal injuries live their lives in wheel chairs. Many dogs are euthanized due to spinal cord injuries.

Most neurosurgeons have guidelines to help them decide when it is best to do surgery. Most of them will not do surgery if their is still motor function, meaning that the dog can still walk. It is usually recommended to treat with steroids and do bed rest and hope the dog returns to normal. If a dog cannot walk but still has some superficial pain response, the surgeon will highly recommend surgery asap. If the dog cannot walk and has no DEEP pain, then there is always a concern that the cord is permanently damaged. I have seen many dogs that were sent away by the surgeon telling the client that the cord was to damaged for the surgery to help.

All that said, my go to treatment for the past 16 years is acupuncture. I have seen this modality get many paralyzed dogs up and going again. I have treated maybe 40-50 of these dogs and only one failed to get up and walk again. I even had a dog that had been paralyzed for six years get up and walk again with acupuncture. I personally like to use acupuncture with electrostimulation for these dogs and when they start to get up, I will add some water therapy. I also have been using electromagnetic therapy on them as well, often once a day. Remember, the nervous system is electrical in nature and using energy to treat energy works really well, often better than conventional medicine.

Please have your husband keep your dog confined. Remind him that your dog is under the influence of prednisone and that is probably why he wants to go out and walk. Treat your dog like a piece of crystal during these times otherwise you might promote further harm to the spinal cord and end up with a paralyzed dog. Good luck.
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you never mentioned what symptoms she has and what has been her response to what has been tried already. Most if not nearly all specialists opt for medical treatment over surgery as long as it seems to helping (can take some time, but should some improvement by now). If there has been ANY improvement, and your pet is better enough that she is not completely miserable (or she does not have total paralysis) then I think your specialist would recommend continue current treatment. But I gather from getting an MRI that perhaps she is worse or at least not a bit better?
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Thank you all soooo much for responding. I had her on rimadyl in the beginning and she was doing good until she picked up a toy and shook it and suddenly gave me the look and wanted picked up, hunching her back. So I put her on the prednisone -- still wondering if I did the right thing -- and I did three days of 5 mg, yesterday 2.5 mg, 1/4 tablet of Pepcid ac. The past few nights her breathing was so rapid that it scared me. I think I'm going to wean her off the prednisone.
Yesterday, we took her to the holistic vet for the acupuncture. He said to wait until we get the MRI -- don't know why really. This is the only vet in town who performs acupuncture. AND it's AQUPUNCTUCE. He doesn't have the electrostimulation machine. She's had eight laser treatments as of yesterday. He said she has great mobility of her neck. Good news! I'm still on the fence with the MRI. He says the acupuncture is the way to go. I think we should get her off the prednisone to see how she's really doing. Thoughts? And please chime in on the aqupuncture. He also does prolotherapy, but not reading great stuff about that so I doubt I'll do that. We have a bathtub for water therapy, but she hates water so she'll just doggie paddle. Is that water therapy? Ty again. I'm so appreciative. I'm thinking of cancelling the MRI too.

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If it were me, I would go ahead with the MRI, its non-invasive, and will provide some good information about her condition. I know they are expensive, but they do provide good information for your Vet for recommendations and a treatment plan. For now, I would discourage her from being too active, you saw the result when she shook her toy. I don't believe the prednisone will affect her breathing, at least in the short term, maybe one of the Vets can clarify, but I would think, she should be kept on prednisone short term, to reduce inflammation, and help the healing process. As far as her fast breathing, I'm guessing here, but possibly pain had more to do with it than anything else.
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It's only while in the bed, the breathing. She's fine right now laying on the couch. Putting her under is always a concern. Money is irrelevant. I'll do anything for her - well, we would do anything.
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