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Old 04-19-2018, 05:50 AM
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Hi all,

My 15 year old female Cockapoo was just diagnosed with kidney failure and I was wondering what food I should feed her. I have a 4 year old female Bichon Frise and a 6 year old male Bichon Frise and feed them all Kirkland Signature small dog food with Kirkland canned dog food. I would like to know if i can continue to feed all of them the same food or should I put my Cockapoo on a different diet.

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My dog had chronic kidney disease. I feed her Honest Kitchen Preference mixed with boiled grass fed ground beef. I used 3/4 cup of THK and 1 cup of cooked beef per day for her. This is the ratio my vet and I determined would provide appropriate protein, phosphorous, sodium, etc. for her.

I do this because my dog can't eat any poultry (allergies). If she could, I would have her on a prescription food (probably Royal Canin, possibly Purina veterinary diet). I know a lot of people don't like these brands for their commercial lines, and it is true that there are things we don't like to see in the recipes like gluten and by-products, but they are specially formulate and go through feeding trials to ensure that they have the proper effects on the body.

What stage was your dog diagnosed at? Do you have any of her lab values (creatinine, BUN, SDMA)? Did she have a urinalysis? Do you know what the specific gravity of her urine was?

FWIW, my dog was diagnosed in 2015, and she is stable today. I don't know if that is because of what I have done (adjusted her diet, and I only allow her to have spring water - no tap. Plus she gets 2 capsules of Nordic Naturals fish oil each day), or if we are just lucky.
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My buddy has been diagnosed since January. We first started him on Monge Renal. He hated that food. He would walk far away from his dish if there was Monge in it. Luckily we were able to switch to Royal Canin. He likes Royal Canin Renal as much as he did Taste of the Wild.

I am encouraged to hear cac2109 is so fortunate to have her dog stable after roughly 3 years. Great job cac2109.
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In general I do not care for the prescription formulas and find that I can do better just adjusting my dog's diet and adding appropriate supplements, my exception to that is the renal diets. If my dog was in renal failure I'd have him on one of the prescriptions renal foods without hesitation. That's what I would try first if I had your dog. While not dogs I do have 2 separate friends who have cats that have kidney problems, both the cats are on prescription renal food and both are doing well on it. In fact one of my friends just had his cat at the vet for a check-up last month and her kidney levels are now normal.
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Very much agree with Rain. The kidneys are so important to maintaining homeostasis, it is incredibly difficult to get this right with commercial food or home made diet. If/when Honey begins to deteriorate, we will work on finding the right rx food for her. I have already had two consultations with veterinary nutritionists (two different ones - board certified), to get to the diet we are on right now.

I want to mention that in my original post I noticed I wrote "my dog *had* kidney disease" - that was a typo. She *has* kidney disease (confirmed by ultrasound). It can't be cured. But we are very lucky to be stable at stage 1 for three years.

The reason I asked about blood and urine values is because, per my vet, if you are at stage 1, you have a little bit more leeway with diet. However, if your dog doesn't have any food allergies, I'd go for the rx food. And personally, I'd be feeding the canned instead of the dried food (or at least mixing). Very important for them to be as hydrated as possible.

Since I've been in this CKD world for a while with my dog, you can feel free to message me if you have questions. There's also a really helpful and supportive facebook group called Canine Kidney Disease, which I recommend joining.
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