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Old 03-07-2016, 12:11 AM
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I am convinced that vets really don't know anything special about dog nutrition and exercise - it's sort of like expecting your doctor to give you nutritional advice. Sure, they're generally knowledgeable about nutrition, but it's not their area of expertise and they don't have more training on it than a lay person.

That said, their training is in practicing animal medicine, and that includes disease prevention and treatment.

I'd defer to the vet on all medical matters. It's what they are there for. Monthly deworming is indeed the norm.
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Monthly deworming is indeed the norm.
Monthly flea treating also seems to be the norm, but is likely a contributor to the high cancer rates in dogs. As well, it's unnecessary.

Has this being the norm only something that's occurred in the last 20 years, like the flea treating?
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hmm, I don't think a monthly flea treatment is quite as strongly recommended as a monthly heartworm preventative.

Once a dog has fleas it's a pain in the butt to get rid of, but your dog probably isn't going to die from fleas as long as you stay on top of it.

Heartworm on the other hand is a pretty serious. Many people contribute the increase of the average life expectancy of dogs to their monthly heartworm preventative.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:39 AM
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I'm talking about regular dewormers for intestinal worms, not heartworm medication which is a different thing. We don't have heartworm here.
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I'm talking about regular dewormers for intestinal worms, not heartworm medication which is a different thing. We don't have heartworm here.
That surprises me quite a bit. Given that Vancouver is traditionally warm and wet, I would assume you would have a decent number of mosquitos.
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That surprises me quite a bit. Given that Vancouver is traditionally warm and wet, I would assume you would have a decent number of mosquitos.
It's not about the number of mosquitos it's the temperature that matters so that the heartworms can complete all their life stages and infect a dog.



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There are laboratory studies that indicate that development to the L3 stage requires the equivalent of a steady 24-hour daily temperature in excess of 64F for approximately one month. Intermittent daily declines in temperature below the developmental threshold of 57F for short periods (<2hrs) retard maturation, even when the average daily temperature supports continued development. At a minimum daily temperature of 80 F 10 to 14 days are required for development of microfilariae to the infective stage.
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Oh, I didn't know about any other regular dewormer. My dog has never taken another, and my vet has never recommended us to.

That said, the heartworm dewormer does get rid of other worms too. He had a regular dewormer when I first adopted him as a puppy, and later when he got worms again after eating a duck in the park, the vet told me the regular heartworm preventative should take care of it.

Though now that I have this new information about temperature maybe I will reconsider!
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Both of my dogs are from California, and one hadn't received a heartworm test before she was brought here. When I found this out I went to my vet to request the test, and they had to check into it - it's such a non-issue here that they never do that test.

A 5 hour drive north-east of here there are heartworm issues. It's an area that's desert - basically the northern version of Arizona. But here, no problems. We don't have much of a mosquito issue here either. While we do have hot temperatures through the summer, we also have drought (from about April to September) so not a great environment for mosquitoes, thank goodness.
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where on earth did someone 'learn' the flea preventatives caused cancers? That is ridiculous. However, I am not advocating the preventative use of parasite meds if one does not live in a climate that is not loaded with parasites. Here in Southern California, which is basically a desert, we have relatively few parasites in the environment and weekly or monthly prevention for parasites (particularly internal ones) is probably unnecessary. Fleas might be a bit more of a concern, particularly in the warmer months, but many areas of So Cal are also basically flea-free. But even for those areas that are not, as long as your pet is not flea allergic, todays flea treatments are so effective, safe (yes, SAFE) and fast, preventative flea treatment is not necessarily essential... one can treat their pets once the fleas have arrived, as they are so easy to get rid of. Heart worms are also rare in So Cal. Many still give preventative and we sell a lot of it, but it is probably not needed for most pets that do not spend the evenings outdoors (when mosquitoes come out) or who don't have a lot of standing water about.

Now if you live on the east coast, particularly the south east, I think that is a completely different situation, as high humidity is a perfect environment for parasites to be present and in large numbers year round. I have never lived in such an environment, but my parasite recommendations would probably be different for those that live in that sort of situation- especially concerning the need for heart worm preventatives!
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We do a monthly pill that treats for heartworm, other worms and fleas. It does not kill the fleas but makes them infertile so it kills off the flea population. We don't really have a problem with fleas through winter but this winter has been so mild they are exploding! We are having to put them on a topical and put my cats on a monthly flea/wormer. My cats have never been on a monthly wormer cause the vet never seemed worried about it. Just dewormed twice a year. This year though she has said the fleas are so bad they need to be on something. They already have tapeworms from the serious explosion of fleas in my area and I am even being eatin up! We are spraying our house down daily but its an ongoing war!
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