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Old 02-05-2017, 02:59 PM
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Dog Vomiting Frothy Foam...very concerned

my precious Noodle dog suddenly started feeling ill & vomited up a large quantity of frothy white foam maybe about an hour - hour and a half ago.
I let her outside while I cleaned it up (in case she was going to be sick again, didn't want it to happen in the house), and when I called her back after I'd finished cleaning, she ran up to me from the opposite end of the (large -- 5 acre) property w/ relative enthusiasm, but I could see that she was visibly heaving even as she was running toward me.
since then, she has not vomited again, but is clearly feeling very unwell. she has been heaving on/off & mostly just hiding under the kitchen table (her "safe space" where she'll go if she's scared or not feeling well) looking listless. I put one of her beds under there to make her more comfortable, which she seemed grateful for.
her gums seem to be a bit pale, which is concerning me ...but she will not allow me to take her temperature & I really don't want to traumatize her when she's already feeling bad by making a family member hold her down. =/

here's the deal:
around 5am this morning, my mom was prepping "football food" and was rinsing & cutting the excess fat/gristle/whatever off some raw chicken breasts. Nika really wanted some, and I debated giving her any for a while...but I know there are some people who feed a raw diet & give their dogs raw chicken every day, and they are of course just fine. so I gave her a TINY piece of raw chicken, could not possibly have been more than 1/2 an ounce all in all; it had been very thoroughly rinsed and I made sure to pick out a piece w/ not much fat on it. again, that was at about ~5am.
she ate her usual breakfast (1 1/4 cups Canidae "All Life Stages" dry food w/ a spoonful or two of bottled chicken gravy to make it tasty as she can be a picky eater) around 715am, and seemed perfectly fine -- good appetite & all that.
around maybe 1-130pm, my mom gave her just a tbsp or two of canned sweet potato (in syrup...not the best thing for a dog, I know, but it was really just a tiny bit & I can't imagine it would've ever caused her problems normally).
she seemed totally fine for a while following that, but then about an hour (or maybe a little over) later, she suddenly threw up all that white frothy foaminess + the sweet potato.
and since then she has been clearly feeling very sick.


she's just in the past 15min or seemed to have started feeling slightly better -- she came out from under the table & wanted to come out on the porch w/ me. but since we've been out here she's still been very listless -- just lying down, standing w/ her tail tucked between her legs looking downright miserable, or occasionally meandering around very apathetically.

is it the raw chicken that is the culprit for this?
exactly how worried should I be?
is this an "emergency" that requires immediate vet attention?
obviously, it's Sunday afternoon right now (Superbowl Sunday at that), and the vet's office is not open. however, our small animal veterinarian is actually our neighbor & lives right down the road from us, & they are sort of "friends of the family." they have helped my family out before when we've had a weekend dog emergency; and I imagine that if this is really something serious & needs attention right away, that I could get the vet over here this afternoon/evening. but I really don't want to bother them on Superbowl Sunday if I don't have to.

also, I have some leftover promethazine I could give her for the nausea...but I'm not sure if I should??
I used to have metoclopramide as well, but my mom recently cleaned out the medicine cabinet & got rid of a bunch of old prescriptions, so now I only have promethazine available.

I could REALLY use some advice here...POST HASTE.

I'm honestly really quite alarmed by her symptoms...
I tragically lost my last dog in 2011 to severe stomach ulcers (don't ever feed your dogs Beneful -- it may very well kill them), and he showed very few symptoms of being sick before it was "too late" I guess.
he vomited only twice in the span of 5 days, and was still eating & acting pretty normal up until the day he vomited the second time (at which time I rushed him immediately to the vet).
I admit I can be a paranoid pet owner...but really, this situation is very concerning to me...

advice???

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Could you call the ER Vet and talk to them, to get a feeling of how serious they think it may be? My take is it could be as minor as indigestion or as serious as bloat or an obstruction. Only a Vet can assess what is going on with her and how serious it may or may not be. If she were mine I would error on the side of being possibly overly cautious. I would rather do way more than necessary than ignore something that could be life threatening.
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It's really hard to say what might be causing her symptoms. I would not think it was the chicken alone, but if it had enough fat on it that could very well have triggered a mild case of pancreatitis.

If she was my dog I'd opt to keep a really good eye on her, fast her, and if she kept throwing up, dry heaving, or got even a little worse, I'd be on the phone with the vet seeing if bringing her in was warranted, or if continuing to wait and see was O.K..

If you are going to call your vet neighbor I'd do so now since the game has only been on around an hour rather then waiting till later when he's likely to be into the game and may have also had a couple of alcoholic beverages.
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UPDATE:
I was supposed to go over to a friend's house to watch the game this evening, but after the Noodle took ill I spent quite a while debating whether or not to even go (& was late to my friend's because of it), as I wanted to be able to keep an eye on her.
fortunately, over the hour or two between my posting this & when I headed out at about 5-515pm, the Noodle dog continued to gradually improve. by the time I left, she'd been out from under the table for some time, was up & about & generally looking much perkier, wagging her tail a bit, and even starting to beg from my mom while she was finishing up the cooking.
so I felt much more comfortable leaving her (under watch of my family), and more assured that she would be alright.
I texted my mom when I arrived at my friend's, telling her not to give Nika anything for dinner except perhaps at most a small amount of rice + boiled chicken...apparently however, the text did not get through in a timely manner (though it said it had been properly delivered...I have been having issues w/ this lately...my phone is a turd), and my mom did not get the message 'til a few hours later. she said that she had fed her about a half portion of her normal fare, and that she'd continued to improve since I left, had a good appetite for dinner, kept it down, and at that point seemed completely fine.
I got home maybe 45min - an hour ago, and she seemed like her usual self when I came in -- very excited to greet me & fascinated by the smells of my friend's dogs all over my clothes. =P and she has been acting normally since then.

so at this point, she seems to be alright, and it looks like I did really not have much to be so stressed out about.
I just get so worried about her. she is my best friend & virtually constant companion, and I have no idea how I could ever possibly manage w/o her by my side.
and nothing like this has ever happened to her in her nearly 6 years of life; she's always been extremely healthy -- save a single random bout of explosive & somewhat bloody diarrhea which necessitated a trip to the emergency vet hospital at 5am on Christmas morning of 2012. (which was attributed by the vet to stress -- I'd recently moved a couple times & there'd been some very drastic changes in her environment. but after a day/night in the hospital she was pretty much back to normal & never had a problem since)
I mean, she's certainly vomited a handful of times before...but never foam & froth like that, and she'd always seemed to be back to feeling perfectly fine w/in just minutes following.
especially after what happened to my last dog (which was actually in 2010, not '11...got my years mixed up in the OP), I try to be very vigilant when it comes to the health of my animals, and honestly probably worry too much about it.

anyway, I will definitely be keeping a very close eye on her over the next several days... but right now she seems to be A-OK!

thank you all for responding. I do appreciate it.
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Glad she is doing better, but do keep an eye on her. If she regresses and displays the same symptoms again, I would certainly get her to a Vet for a complete medical workup.
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I'm glad she's feeling better. As others have said keep a close eye on her.
I am of coarse not a vet, but given the timing it could have been the syrup from the sweet potatoes. Was the piece of chicken and the sweet potato the only extra things she got that day?
It might be worth it just to talk to your vet. They may be able to give you an idea of what happened and what caused it and if they feel anything else other then monitoring needs to be done.
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Glad she is doing better, but do keep an eye on her. If she regresses and displays the same symptoms again, I would certainly get her to a Vet for a complete medical workup.
oh yes, of course.

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I'm glad she's feeling better. As others have said keep a close eye on her.
I am of coarse not a vet, but given the timing it could have been the syrup from the sweet potatoes. Was the piece of chicken and the sweet potato the only extra things she got that day?
It might be worth it just to talk to your vet. They may be able to give you an idea of what happened and what caused it and if they feel anything else other then monitoring needs to be done.
yes, the chicken & sweet potato were the only "extra" things she had that day.
that was actually my initial thought too -- that maybe the sweet potato had too much sugar for her, and either just upset her tummy or possibly even caused her blood glucose to spike drastically (I have blood sugar issues & I know when my sugar is really high I feel HORRIBLE) ...but even that I think would be a little strange, honestly. I mean, it wasn't like my mom gave her a cup of syrup of anything...it was just literally no more than 2 tbsp sweet potato tops, w/ the syrup fully drained off. and in the past she's definitely consumed at least as much if not more sugar than that in a sitting (cleaning up sugary cereal spilled on the floor, being given the edges of Poptarts when I eat them, etc etc) and been 110% fine.

I also hypothesized that could have MAYBE possibly had something to do w/ the fact that the night before she'd gotten much less sleep than usual, which made her more sensitive to little stuff? again, just going off the fact that when I am running short on sleep I often tend to feel sick to my stomach.
I didn't sleep at all that night, though I tried to -- took the Noodle upstairs w/ me to try & go to bed around maybe ~1am, 130? (though she'd slept just a little bit on the couch downstairs before that). I couldn't sleep but I left her up there so she could. but then there were a bunch of super scary noises outside while I was smoking on the porch, so I woke up the Noodle around 345-4am & made her come outside to protect me. and she never really got anymore sleep after that and was up & awake pretty much the whole rest of the day.

I will maybe call the vet though this afternoon or tomorrow & get their opinion on it. I just feel like I've been bothering them a lot lately though... but I did tell his wife that I'd update her on how my horse was doing (he colicked recently & I'd called her up in a panic hoping she had some banamine I could borrow as mine was expired & had gone bad, because it'd been such a very long time since I'd needed it), so hopefully she wouldn't mind me calling.
& of course keep a close eye on her.
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Other then the sugar content I was also thinking what ingredients that were in the syrup. Other then that she could have also gotten ahold of something you didn't see or something else entirely. Anyways the important thing is that she seems to be better.
I don't think your vet will mind. That way too if happens again you might have a better idea of what it is and if you need to do anything.

Side note: I hope your horse is doing better
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Other then the sugar content I was also thinking what ingredients that were in the syrup. Other then that she could have also gotten ahold of something you didn't see or something else entirely. Anyways the important thing is that she seems to be better.
I don't think your vet will mind. That way too if happens again you might have a better idea of what it is and if you need to do anything.

Side note: I hope your horse is doing better
in the canned yams is just sweet potatoes, water & sugar.

I do suppose she could have gotten into something...she had been outside a couple times earlier... though she's really not the type of dog to go eating random things she finds laying around (not extremely "food motivated" at all, and pretty cautious when it comes to trying new things), she does like catching/eating flying bugs sometimes (especially bees hah), and I don't doubt it's certainly possible she could've eaten something outside that upset her tummy.

she's still 100% right now. =)
but yeah...I think I'll call the vet near closing time today (so hopefully they'd be less busy?) to ask them about the Noodle, and update them on my horse.
oh, and thanks for your well wishes for him (my horse).
...he's actually really concerning me...poor boy...
before the other week, he had never colicked before in his entire life. but he's suffered w/ ulcers since he was 4-5 years old (he'll be 11 this year), and while I've been able to keep them largely under control since the initial Dx, they do flare up from time to time. he's been having a bad ulcer flare up lately -- he's lost a lot of weight & his tummy is clearly bothering him. but unfortunately due to my own extenuating life circumstances, I cannot afford to treat him w/ omeprazole paste. <<-- the flagship/only FDA approved treatment for equine ulcers...the FDA approved omeprazole brand runs at least $1000/month, and w/ the way his ulcers are he'd probably need at the very least 60 if not 90 days of full dose treatment. the unapproved knock-off/generic brand paste is still about $300/month. =/ he gets aloe vera juice in his feed every day though, and I have been thinking about trying Gastrix (an all-natural aloe based equine ulcer treatment/supplement), which runs only about $80/month & comes w/ glowing reviews from my equine vet. but there is just no possible way I can afford the omeprazole right now...and really, nothing can compare to omeprazole paste as far as ulcer treatment goes.
he was just finally starting to put weight back on & look somewhat decent, then he had this bad gas colic, and so of course I had to really restrict his food for a while & get him back up to his usual amount gradually, and he ended up losing weight again.
I'm really just so stressed out about him. I love him so dearly -- I've had him since he was a weanling & have done all of his training myself, from halter breaking to jumping Advanced level XC & 4' stadium courses; he's like my child.
I know his ulcers have flared up in large part because he is stressed out & unhappy w/ his life, and that makes me feel horrible. he is here on my parents' property all by his lonesome self, which is never good for a horse -- they are herd animals of course & very social creatures, and generally do not do well being kept alone. on top of that, he is a very anxious & sensitive animal just by nature and is prone to being distressed by things. I used to have another horse and a pony mule, but I sold them both in 2015, as Rileigh (the horse I still have) was being kept at the barn at which I worked as a riding instructor/trainer and so had plenty of companionship. I really wish I had kept the mule; she was so sweet & practically an air fern -- would stay fat on just a couple flakes of hay & literally a handful of grain each day if that, so not costly to maintain. =/ but I did not foresee having all these health issues come up and having to leave my job & move Riles back to my parents' place. I really wish I could get him some sort of companion -- a pony, a mule or even a goat or something. but again, I simply cannot afford such an expense.
this whole situation w/ my horse really causes me such immense distress.
he is very far from being emaciated or anything, but still every time I catch sight of him out in the paddock I cannot help but to wince & grimace because he looks like SH!T. honestly I low-key fear that animal control will show up one day & drag him away...though in reality he is pretty dang well cared for -- gets 10-12lbs of O&A hay each day, 4-5lbs Purina Ultium concentrate, 3-4lbs pelleted beet pulp & 2-3lbs alfalfa pellets, plus aloe vera juice; gets a course of psyllium fiber monthly (to prevent sand buildup in the gut); is dewormed regularly; always has fresh water; wears a blanket when it's cold; etc etc.
but jesus, he just looks like such a mess. I mean, like I said, he's certainly far from being emaciated or anything, but he's definitely quite thin right now...not more than a 3 on the BCS at most...
agggh I'm just so freaking stressed out about him. D=

sorry this turned into a MASSIVELY long rant about my equine concerns...very off topic...but I am quite prone to word vomit, and the situation w/ my horse has been causing me so much anxiety...I guess I just needed to vent... =/

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I'm so sorry that Rileigh is feeling so bad!

Darn I was going to suggest a goat as a companion for him as I've heard that they do usually make good stable mates for horses. I totally understand simply not being able to afford another animal and being able to give it proper care. That's what I'm at with Zody, I'd love to get a kitten or young adult cat, but Zody is my vet bill and takes all my extra money, if I got a kitten and it needed vet care at the same time as Zody they'd both be short changed on care.

I hope that your boy starts to feel better and am so happy that Noodle is feeling well!

Oh I do have one idea... Would the pasture that Rileigh is in support another horse? If it would maybe someone would be willing to board their horse, pony, goat, etc. with y'all if it gets along with Rileigh.
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