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Old 12-03-2017, 05:43 AM
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DOG has FLAKY SKIN and LOSING HAIR what is it ?

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My dog hAs had this issue now for months, been to vet, they seem to not be sure what it is on meds but not getting better. Trying to figure it out. After lots of time and monies back and forth to vet with not a diagnosis is quite frustrating

My dog is 10 and blind now for 2 years . he is overweight so he cannot reach the areas affected so it's not him scratching or biting himself. These spots just pop up all over now on his neck. I clean the areas comb him and that's when we lose patches of hair . He is on grain free food and biscuits. Attached is a picture please any knowledge would be helpful
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:28 AM
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Looks like dry skin, assuming there are no fleas. One of ours had a dry patch just like that last year, and I rubbed coconut oil into it a couple times a day until it started to look better, then once a day. About two weeks total and it cleared up, hasn't been back. Look up the benefits of coconut oil on the skin. I also increased the fish oil I was giving as well.
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:45 PM
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I think it's more than just dry skin . He is also literally losing hair from this when I comb the flake/scab areas .
I will try the coconut oil though .
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Arrow Possibly hypothyroid - I'd get a 5 way or 6 way blood panel.

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My dog's had this issue for months, now; we've been to the vet, they seem unsure what it is - he's on meds, but [it's] not getting better. Trying to figure it out. After lots of time & monies, back and forth to vet with no diagnosis, it's quite frustrating

My dog is 10-YO - he's been blind for 2 years. He's overweight & cannot reach the areas affected - he's not scratching or biting himself. These spots just pop up, all over his neck.
I clean the areas, comb him, and that's when he loses patches of hair .

He is [fed] grain free dog-food and biscuits.
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What are his biscuits made of? - Most biscuits are grain-based carbs with flavoring.
[Most dogs are neither allergic nor intolerant of grains - they might have problems with one, but not "all grains".
A small subset of dogs is gluten-intolerant, but it's a far-smaller fraction than in humans; IBD / IBS is a different issue.
The most common allergies in dogs are to proteins, not carbs - beef, chicken, lamb, etc.]


What color is his skin, under his hair? - most dogs are very fair-skinned, & have near-white skin.
[Pigment colors the skin under spots & pied patches - but Ur dog doesn't appear to be spotted or pied.]

If his skin is GREY in color, & feels slightly thickened, when U pick the skin up & roll it gently, plus his skin is GREASY as well as flaking, those are all symptoms of hypothyroid.

I would ask my vet to take a blood sample, then send it to either Michigan State Univ vet-labs, or HemoPet Labs.
MSU's vet college has the world's largest breed-specific database of thyroid values, & they're excellent at analysis; Dodd's HemoPet labs enjoy a worldwide reputation. Both of them receive specimens from around the world, every day.

A full thyroid panel is at least 5 & possibly 6 measurements: free & bound forms of both T3 & T4, plus TSH / Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, & possibly an ANA / Anti Nuclear Antibody test, in addition.
The ANA test can tell U if the dog has an auto-immune issue & is attacking their own tissues.

Do NOT let the vet persuade U to "save money" by skipping one or more tests; U only want to do this once, so I'd squeeze every drop of knowledge out of that specimen!
The distance between free & bound forms is like measuring between floor & ceiling - U need both, to get useful data.

Also, some vets will offer to do the analysis in house, or say U can save money by sending it to the local hospital - i'd resist. A sheet of numbers means little without the follow-up analysis, & a local GP vet is unlikely to have the specialist knowledge of MSU's endocrinologists, or HemoPet's vet staff, with 25 or 30 years focussed on blood-borne diseases in dogs.

If U really truly cannot cover the cost of sending the sample away for analysis, GET A 2nd OPINION from either MSU or HempPet - send them the numbers, & tell them the dog's breed/s, age, etc, list the skin issues, even include the photo - their advice is IMO solid gold, it's worth spending the extra to get truly accurate, in-depth analysis.

If his results are "borderline low", I'd be prepared to talk to my vet about a short course of low-dose thyroid supplement - 3 to 4 weeks should show the effects, if any; if his skin improves, the flaking is less, hair is coming in where the follicles aren't damaged, the skin texture is more normal, & HE SHOULD lose wt, while eating the exact same # of calories / day...
then that's reason enuf to continue the thyroid supplement.

Dogs who need it, need it all their lives - but once they get the dose properly calibrated, the Rx is very cheap. It saves lives, improves health, & is very, very worthwhile, IME.

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Has your vet checked your dog's thyroid? I had a little dog that lost most of her hair due to thyroid issues. She was resistant to the meds for it though. But the hair loss is what clued the vet in on testing for thyroid issues to begin with.

I hope you dog finds some relief soon from the itching, I have a dog with summer time allergy issues and it's almost as miserable to see her miserable from the itching and not being able to do a whole lot about it, other than give her steroid shots from time to time...which in doing so, I also know is hard of the dog in the long run.

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My boy was testing for thyroid 3 months ago and was low so he is on meds now for about 3 months. The picture above this from thryoidcondition? Even as he is on meds and skin getting worse?
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Try feeding your dog a fish oil! Fish oil gives dog an improvement in skin and coat. But do not give too much, too much can be hazardous.
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