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This is a discussion on Delaying the Spay within the Dog Health forums, part of the Keeping and Caring for Dogs category; Here's my two cents... 1) It is your decision. This wasn't something I realized until fairly recently but spaying is a very personal decision and ...

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Old 02-03-2016, 01:29 PM
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Here's my two cents...

1) It is your decision. This wasn't something I realized until fairly recently but spaying is a very personal decision and varies based on individual scenarios.

2) I 100% think you should let the breeder know. My best guess is that they try to set a reasonable timeline but based on your (very reasonable) logic, I think they would make the exception. I can't understand why they wouldn't. Then you at least have the papers if you ever do need them. After all, you paid for a papered dog, right?

3) OSS is certainly a possibility. @cbarkerb724 isn't around too much but she may pop in if she sees this post. You could always PM her if you have questions. She's super nice and I'm sure she'd answer your questions

At the end of the day, you need to do what's best for your situation.
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Old 02-03-2016, 01:44 PM
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@Kwenami - I think I will e-mail her and just explain that I would really prefer to wait for health purposes and that she WILL 100% be spayed, just not right now. If she says yes, great, if she says no, I don't know what I'll do. I feel it is in her best interest to wait, but I don't want to be shady and register her as a PAL or whatever without her knowledge.
If she says no, do what you feel is best for your dog. The breeder has a responsibility to the dogs she breeds but if you're proceeding responsibly then that's what matters to the rest of the world.

BTW I got Koda around 1.5 years intact, and within the month she went into her second heat. She did fine, it wasn't even very messy (thank god). She was spayed within the next 3 months after that and is doing great. I found she got a tad moody at the end of her heat and we stayed indoors but if things were kept mellow she did alright. If I got a second dog right now in that age that isn't already done I'd probably wait until sometimes between 1-2 years to spay/neuter as well, or look more into OSS.

Btw mixed breeds can compete in obedience, rally-o, and agility, so its not the end of the world though it would be nice to have her papers.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:19 PM
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I'm not sure that contract is legal. I'm not a lawyer but I bet you could sue for those papers, the dog belongs to you after all, not the breeder.
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I'm not sure that contract is legal. I'm not a lawyer but I bet you could sue for those papers, the dog belongs to you after all, not the breeder.
Hm, I wonder about that.
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Hm, I wonder about that.
Ask for a laywer to go over it for you and take a good look at it for you? i think its unreasonable to spay within 6 months of getting the dog(esp a medium/large breed like border collie)for a small dog thats alright to spay at 6 months but a border collie it does seem too soon. BUT i did spay charlie too soon as well and we spayed rocky very young(dont remember how old he was when got spayed though) this was in the days we werent aware of the growth plates etc
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Maybe @crock would be able to help. She has dog knowledge and law knowledge. Maybe she has dog law knowledge!
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I'll give you my honest opinion in 10 years lol, but I only comment, and not to derail the thread, but in regards to the contract. have you contacted your breeder? I'm guessing like the majority of (x)KC breeders, this contract is based solely on competition, if you explain you have zero intention of breeding and it is solely based on the welfare of your dog they will probably concede. If not who cares, registration papers are, well I'll let you fill in my Kennel club rant as you see fit.
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What is the point of the mandatory spay anyway.

If a breeder doesn't think his or her pups are worth breeding what does that say about their confidence in the quality they're producing?
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It's not the quality of the pups, it's the opposite actually, they want to keep you from competing with them and them not getting their cut.
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@Shawsea This whole situation may get rather awkward in the future for breeders and everyone else with pet cloning in the equation. lol O.O
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