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Old 02-25-2016, 10:11 PM
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reminds me of a facebook page where in the uk someone was asking if to nueter their male dog they got told no because leaving him intact has many health benefits! yeah right? i noticed last year lots of dogs are intact
Its that there are less clear health benefits to neutering a male dog than a female dog.

In fact if I didn't have a bitch I wouldn't have neutered my dog but I did, just to be extra careful, and its a decision I regret deeply, but that's another thread.
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Old 02-26-2016, 06:20 AM
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To be fair alot of reasearch has been done on spay/ neutering and there are alot of cons aswel as alot of pro's in my opinion health wise they kind of balance each other out. I think it's up to each individual wether ot not they neuter their animals.

I noticed when I got my female done 9 years ago and when my male got his vaccs neither vet mentioned any cons to neutering/spaying only the positive. I know that vets probably see the problems that come with over population all the time so ofc advocate neutering, but personally I believe each owner should have the right to the facts so they can make an informed decision.

I was thinking this might be the same. Maybe vets don't say any possible benefits (if any) there are to breeding because they don't want to encourage it. Sadly if it where true and became public knowledge I think alot of people would use it as an excuse to breed.

The lady who originally made the comment never replied back so I'm guessing she doesn't have an credible source to back up her claims. If it's true that having a litter reduces mammary cancer risk I can only guess that it doesn't reduce the risk nearly as much as spaying early does. Without any stats though I suppose we can only guess.

The bitch in question was a chihuahua the owner wanted to breed her with a pom. Alot of people mentioned the risk of breeding such a small breed to a larger one then this other woman jumps in and starts sprouting that nonsense. Thankfully the original poster has said for now she is putting the breeding on hold while she researches more and talks to her vet. Tbh I believe she has only said this to get people off of her back as she seemed pretty adamant at first, but hopefully she has seen sense.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:16 AM
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I can't imagine there being any massive benefit that would justify throwing another litter of puppies out into the world.

The thing with cancer is there are so many causes, it's insane. Nearly everything could potentially be carcinogenic. And genetics plays a big role too - so it may have nothing to do with life circumstances. I know of people who have gotten lung cancer who haven't smoked a day in their lives (or even been around any irritants for an extended period of time). Go figure.

Generally, I agree with you that everyone should make an informed decision whether or not to spay/neuter. But, it should be an educated one and not taken lightly. If you choose not to spay your female - fine - but you have to commit to paying attention to heat cycles and preventing your dog from being bred, which is sometimes easier said than done.

I think the reason spay/neuter is touted so highly by vets and rescues is that 90+% of the populated ISN'T educated or making a conscious decision. Most who elect not to spay/neuter either want to breed, aren't bothered with their dog becoming pregnant, or just don't want to pay the cost or see it as necessary. So it's easier to push it as a good thing because they probably don't care about the research in the first place.

For the record, I have an intact female, had an intact male (and at the same time - but no litters or even scares!) in addition to a few rescue dogs who were spayed/neutered at various ages due to the rescue's policies. I haven't yet noticed any massively negative effects to either situation, but it'd be hard to compare anyway because it's not like I can go back in time and "undo" just to see if there would be a different outcome.

In short, I think as long as the decision is intelligently made and consequences are prepared for, there's nothing wrong with going either way.
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Old 02-26-2016, 07:04 PM
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The main problem I see with everyone breeding their dogs to reduce cancer risk is that most dogs have anywhere from five to twelve puppies per litter. At that rate, if everyone bred their dogs, we'd eventually be absolutely flooded with dogs. If dogs only had one or two pups per litter, everyone could theoretically breed their dog once and it wouldn't be a problem. It's, again, the number of puppies in a litter.

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Old 02-26-2016, 07:38 PM
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The main problem I see with everyone breeding their dogs to reduce cancer risk is that most dogs have anywhere from five to twelve puppies per litter. At that rate, if everyone bred their dogs, we'd eventually be absolutely flooded with dogs. If dogs only had one or two pups per litter, everyone could theoretically breed their dog once and it wouldn't be a problem. It's, again, the number of puppies in a litter.
Does anybody actually do this? Birthing a litter is not without health risks. Ones I'd wager are greater than the marginal reduction in susceptibility to certain cancers.
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Does anybody actually do this? Birthing a litter is not without health risks. Ones I'd wager are greater than the marginal reduction in susceptibility to certain cancers.
I was saying that only to make a point. I doubt it's commonplace for people to make their dogs have just one or two pups. As far as I know, it's not possible to determine(decide) the number of pups in a litter. You may possibly be able to abort fetuses but that's pretty invasive.
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