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Old 06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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Both my dogs got sick with an unknown virus. Here to vent, and for a little advice.

Please don't read this if you are faint of heart.

Alright, so as I'm typing this, my eyes are flooded with tears, and my heart is heavy. Last night, we had to put my mother-in-law's dog down after she contracted a virus that my own puppy, Maui, had just gotten the week before. Prepare for the wall of text....

It all started last week Saturday night, when Maui got into a bag of Tiger Brand Super 10 Garden and Pet dust. The next day, he wasn't eating, but was otherwise acting normal. He has a bit of a habit of getting into things that he shouldn't. I thought he just had a tummy ache, but the next day he was worse.

At about midday on Monday, he started throwing up all his water and he was very lethargic. I took him to the vet that afternoon, and we all kind of agreed that it was the garden dust that caused it. I called ASPCA poison hotline, and they spoke with my vet. They gave Maui a shot (a steroid, I believe) and said he would be better in a couple hours.

The next day, he was even worse. Keep in mind that this week was also my wedding week. My fiance, who is my main source of comfort and support, was out of town for work, and I was essentially alone. I only just recently got my drivers license, and now I was going back and forth to the vet on my own, which was a little scary for somebody with such high anxiety.

I took him back to the vet, and this time they kept him for the day, gave him IV's, did some blood tests, and even took an xray. His bloodwork was relatively normal with some mild abnormalities. The xray the vet took evidently didn't help much either. They THOUGHT they saw something, and they threw around ideas like "twisted kidney" or even "swallowed sock". All in all, they couldn't tell me what was wrong with him, and he was getting progressively worse.

That evening when I got home my internet and phone service went out and the soonest a technician could come out was on Thursday. So I had my sick, dying puppy, a phone that wouldn't work at a time when I NEEDED to have constant contact with the vet, and also with the tons of friends and family I had coming to stay with my for my Saturday wedding, which was at that point IMPOSSIBLE to cancel. I also got denied carecredit, and had no idea how I was gonna afford any of this ****. My fiance is our main breadwinner, and because he was out of town, I had very limited funds.

While my puppy was sick, he drank water as often as he could. Looking back now, I think it's all that water that he drank that kept him alive. Meanwhile, I was mixing wet food up with water and syringing it into the back of his mouth. I know now that I probably shouldn't have done that, but this whole thing was just a very stressful learning experience for me.

So on Wednesday, because of my phone and internet being out, I missed an important call and couldn't make it to the ultrasound appointment. If he had died that night, I would never have been able to forgive myself.

My fiance came back on Thursday, and on Friday morning, he took Maui straight to the emergency vet, which I now know is what I should have done. We signed him over to them for the weekend, where they treated him for gastreoentiris or whatever the heck it's called, and on Sunday when we picked him up, he was good as new. He has been on anti inflammatory and anti nausea medication ever since. We've had him on a diet of rice and boiled chicken, which he's pretty happy about lol. Recently, we started to work some wet food back into his diet, but after our latest events, we are just going to keep him on chicken and rice for a little while longer. All together, the vet costs were about 3000$. But we were able to have a very nice wedding, and having my puppy healthy was soooo freaking worth it.

Charlie started to show symptoms of the same illness. She is a lot older than Maui, and was also a rescue from the side of the road, so we definitely thought she would do better at fighting it. We should have taken her to the emergency vet, but because she is not really my dog, I didn't push as hard as I should have. Her owners (my MIL) wanted to take her to their primary vet, but the soonest appointment was next week.

Whatever this virus was (definitely not Parvo, we checked), it attacked her way more aggressively than it did Maui, and 2 days later, she couldn't even walk. Last night, she started throwing up so much blood.... we've never seen anything like it. She was in so much pain, screaming and crying out. The vet said they could try and save her but there was only a small chance she would survive. She was in so much pain, my in-laws decided they just had to put her down.

This morning I woke up wishing I could see Charlie smiling and wagging her tail. My heart is so heavy thinking that I should have done more for her.

I am also a little paranoid about Maui, who is still going strong and eating well, but I'm scared he might pick up the same thing that he just got over. We still aren't sure where it came from or what it is that caused it. All I know is that the whole back yard is unsafe. We share the yard with in-laws, but live in separate houses, so thankfully it hasn't been too hard to keep Maui apart.

The worst part is that Maui doesn't even know that his best friend is gone. Last night after they took her to the vet for the big sleep, I came up here and just hugged him and laid with him, and cried. He knew something was wrong, but he still doesn't know she's gone. I've seen dogs die over a broken heart for lost friends...

This whole experience has taught me a lot about taking care of animals. For instance, I am 100 percent getting pet insurance for my puppy and all 3 of my cats. I never want to be in the situation where I can't afford to give my animals the proper care they need. I also need to pay WAAAAY more attention to the things my dog puts anywhere near his freaking mouth. I mean, he's 9 months old now and I've just recently started letting him stay in the yard unsupervised, but I know now that that's not gonna be realistic lol.

My heart hurts for Charlie, but I'm comforted knowing that she's not in pain or suffering anymore. We buried her this morning, and the house doesn't seem the same without her. I think I'm done with new animals for a while.

One day I'm gonna be a mother to human children and I'm scared to have to go through this kind of thing with them. I lost 20 lbs with just stress alone...

So anyway, that's been my past two weeks. If y'all can give me any words of comfort, they would be much appreciated. The vet said that because they don't know what caused it, they're not sure if Maui can catch it again, so he's definitely on house arrest for the time being. I also have been wanting to give him treats but I'm paranoid about what I put in his body. Do y'all think blueberries would be safe to give? He loves those.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:32 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss. As hard as it is, if you can, I'd ask for a full necropsy to find the cause. You can't save your pets but, the information gained may save another pet someday.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:48 PM
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I'm so sorry for your loss! I know what it's like to lose pets and not know what it was that killed them.

Is there any type of plant or animal in your yard that could be remotely toxic? Years ago we had a member on here that almost lost her dog because of moldy black walnuts that she did not know were in her backyard. Black walnuts are safe for dogs to eat but the mold they can develop is highly toxic. Things like mushrooms can also be toxic.
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Sometimes plants that seem completely innocuous can be deadly. There are a number of plants that are shrub-like, very popular in this area, a member of the bamboo plant family, that if the leaves are ingested by a dog, will turn to cyanide in their system. Certainly something to think about.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:11 AM
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I'm going to look into the plants thing because that does sound like a possibility.

The one thing that I suspect the most is possibly cat poop. Maui loves cat poop, and as hard as I try to keep him away, once in a while he still finds a pile hidden somewhere. I have about 20 cats on my property that I kind of rescued and got fixed, so it's kinna hard to keep the poop out of the yard.

Poor Maui just wants to play outside. Now every time I take him down to go potty, I just keep him on a leash 'cause I don't trust anything anymore.
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Cats can indeed carry Giardia as well as a few types of internal parasites. With outdoor cats there are likely fleas and, no flea control is 100%. There may be mosquitoes and other biting insects that could have carried a disease.

Only a full workup or necropsy by a vet would tell you for sure what the problem was. Whether ingested or contracted some other way.
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so sorry for your loss, im tearing just reading your post. did you find out what causes it? my rescue pitboxer suffering from mange, its makes me sad to see her in pain. she's on treatment now but still long way to go for fur to come back. Why God sends these Wonderful Animals into Our Life's!
I believe it's to teach us Love and Compassion.
And in the short Time that They are with Us
They are successful in doing this..
Then I believe They return to the One that sent Them.
What a Gift God has given Us!!!

take care, congratulations on your wedding!!!
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Hey everybody!! Thanks for all your replies. I did check out my yard pretty thoroughly, and the only thing I found that concerned me was my mother in laws azalea bush, which is supposed to be very toxic to dogs. It was unbothered, though, and in a part of a yard that the dogs can't get to. As far as I can tell, there's nothing toxic in the yard, so I guess I'll just have to deal with not knowing what caused this. For the time being, Maui doesn't get time in the yard unsupervised.

Maui is doing very good. We still have him on a diet of chicken and rice, and I've been boiling chicken livers and giving him blueberries occasionally as treats.

His poop is very confusing. Most of the time, he has very mushy pudding like poop, either brown or sometimes green. I've noticed he still tries to eat a lot of grass. Yesterday, he had his first hard poop in a while, but then before bed, he had a runny poop.

I really want to get him off the boiled chicken and rice diet, but I know if I should do it now, or wait until his bowels are more stable. I'm considering putting him on a diet of Beneful "Simple Goodness". I plan to put a little in his food, and then work it into his diet that way.

Also, I wanted to just share this cause its kind of interesting and funny to me. Before Maui got sick (3 weeks ago), he still peed like a puppy. Since we got him back, we noticed IMMEDIATELY that he was cocking his leg up and marking. He also has started to be a little more assertive. I wouldn't say he's aggressive, but he's started acting like a little bully lol. The cats used to could push him around, but now he stands up for himself and its pretty hilarious. It's like getting sick kickstarted puberty.

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It could be that he's developed a chicken sensitivity. What I'd do is get some lean ground meat, and mix that with the rice rather then the chicken. Feed that for a couple days and see if his bowels solidify and he has a normal bowel movement. If they do then you know that chicken is the culprit and I'd start choosing chicken free food.
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Hey guys!!! I'm back at it again with more questions and concerns lol. I already called the vet, but they said they'd have to get back with me when they had time, so until then I am here.

First of all, Maui is doing well. I still have him on a bland diet. We had tried to work some regular food back into his diet, but he got some really bad runny, orange, poop/diarrhea, so for now it's just gonna be chicken and rice. I've also been putting peas and carrots in the recipe now, but he hates them lol. I feed him like 3-4 times a day, and I genuinely feel like he does not get full. He's like a bottomless pit. For snacks, I give him hard boiled egg whites, boiled chicken livers, and blue berries. He definitely gets enough to eat, but he always wants more.

He is always hungry and I don't know what to do.

That being said, I really don't mind him on the bland diet if it means he has solid brown poop.

My other concern is that now that Charlie is gone, he has nobody to play with, so he doesn't get enough physical activity as he used to. Charlie is my in-laws dog that passed away from the same sickness he got. They used to sit and play for hours, but now he just spends that time sleeping. Lately it's been 100+ degrees, so I keep our walks very minimal. Since he got sick, I'm very paranoid about leaving him in the yard anyway, so we spend most of our time indoors. I work from home, so I spend most of my time with him.

I try to play with him, but he definitely gets bored of me fast. I guess I don't get rough enough, idk. When we play tug of war, it's like he's going easy on me or letting me win. I don't know if it's cause he respects my authority, or if it's because he thinks I'm weak lol. He doesn't like fetch, either, so I don't have a lot of options. If y'all have any suggestions to keep him more occupied, let me have em!!!

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