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Old 04-09-2015, 09:28 AM
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Lower Drug Prices with price match.

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Are you sure Ollie isn't getting bit up by fleas or mosquitoes? I live in FL, so it's a year-round problem. Apoquel is a miracle for Max. He stopped itching and now I have a 2 day supply left. I'm leaving soon for vacation and bringing him, so I'm going to need to buy a one month supply, so that will cost me roughly $50 ... O.o
I’m so glad it is working for you. I will to help you. Let me know the Aproquel dosage and the frequency of anything else Max (how much does Max weigh and what dosage is he on) and others are on other things like heart and flea preventative and the dosage. I will look for a better price for them. Once my dog got through the initial dosage adjustment, she is still improving after months. The Apoquel is a life saver for my dog. She is 45-47 lbs and she gets half of a 16mg pill once a day. It is $48 for 30 pills which last her 60 days. It may be possible for them to use a higher strength pill and let you split it (even by 4 ways). That could save money. My vet price matches for anything including the heart and flea preventative. Ask your vet if the price match. If not you may need to find another Vet that does then you could get an Rx from your current vet or change vets. If you call around to other vets locally they may sell any or all Max’s drugs for less and ask them if they price match. Some manufactures offer rebates. I save $40 - $50 / 6 months that way. Added to the price match it really adds up. Also, I will check on the internet for you. My vet would rather price match, than having me risk getting contarfit drugs. All you need is a printed quote that includes the shipping if any. Apoquel has improved the quality of her life so much. No more cone. I live in the South. All the trees and flowers are exploding. It is the height of the spring pollen season. Our cars are yellow with pollen. It's so bad if you rinse it off at the car wash a mile away, it is covered again before you get home. I finally, took a leaf blower to it. When I blow off my driveway, it looks like a yellow dust cloud. Everybody's eyes are watering and my dog should be going crazy. She would usually be chewing her paws bloody by now. I had already weaned her off the quercetion, vitamin c, and turmeric over a two month period and she is still doing great. She is on the Apoquel 8mg ( of 16mg) and 2 Claritin/day. It is not a good time to change anything until the pollen dies down. I just added a vitamin to her diet 5 days ago and so far, she is doing fine. Keep the faith. If pollen gets bad in your area you could hose him done frequently without shampoo to keep it out of your house. Also, you could wipe him down with a wet wash cloth before he comes inside. Don’t use dryer sheets. They are bad for dogs. You need to reduce your pet costs. It may be possible. Like I said, I will help you. Please let me know asap.

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Old 04-09-2015, 10:14 AM
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Yes, I am sure it's not fleas or mosquitoes. Ollie takes Nexgard monthly, and we haven't had any mosquitoes yet to speak of.

Ollie has been paw licking snd chewing for over a year now, and has developed Seborrhea on one side of his body from atopic dermatitis, with flakiness and quite a bit of hair loss.

Also, Ollie gets a medicated bath every other night per our vet's instructions to try to keep the seborrhea under control. We would have seen the fleas or mosquito bites when bathing him, as his hair is so thin. It is a shampoo that in non-drying to the skin and can be used daily.

Ollie has been checked for everything, Demodex, yeast, fungus, etc. and our vet is convinced that he has inhaled allergies. If the Apoquel doesn't work, we will have allergy testing done in June.
My dog has inhaled allergies, food and grain mites, too. My dog lived on Prednisone and it was killing her. The Apoquel has fewer side effects.

These are some things that might help. Wipe him down with a wet wash cloth when he comes inside, cover his bed with a washable towel or quilt and wash it often, I got a Botvac Robot vacuum Roomba vs Botvac Review Photos 01/28/15 € Robot Reviews Robotreviews.com, Robatic reviews, Roomba vs Botvac review photos 1/28/15.

Antihistamines (this information came from ingleburnvet.com.au 6/20/2012)
Antihistamines are useful in the management of some cases of atopy (atopic dermatitis). They are rarely of much benefit if used alone, but may be useful when combined with other treatments. They may improve the response to corticosteroids and/or reduce the amount that has to be given. They vary greatly in their efficacy, dosage, side effects and cost. ……Antihistamines are very safe, and the older (first generation) ones generally work better than the newer, more expensive ones. They sometimes cause temporary sedation, but this will usually resolve itself after a few days. If sedation lasts more than a few days, the dose can be reduced. ……The response to antihistamines is very individual and it is usually necessary to try at least 3 or 4 different ones to find what works best in your pet. Give each antihistamine alone for a 10-14 day trial, moving on to the next one if there is no response. If there is a partial response, it is still worth trying others, as another antihistamine may work even better. In this case, wait 3 days for the effects of the first one to subside, before trying the next one. …….The following table list the dose rates of some of the available antihistamines. It is a guide only and is intended for use of patients of this hospital that have been diagnosed with atopy. We will calculate the dose rate for your pet, and take no responsibility for misuse of the information provided in this table. We can provide you with Iramine and the rest should be available from your local pharmacy. The order that you try them is not strictly important, though we suggest you start with Iramine (chlorpheniramine). If the name brands are not available, generic substitution should be OK if necessary. But don’t use human cold an flu preparations that have other ingredients in them too - ask your pharmacist for advice.END INGLEBRUNVET……………………………….......................... ..........
BEGIN FORUM WRITER……..(Never use anything that is “drug name -D“)……..(Be aware that this dose rate is in “kg” not “lbs”. There are 2.2 kg per 1 lb. There are conversion sites on the internet search lbs to kg… This chart is adapted from Inglebrunvet.com Austrailia. The top name is the generic name that all the countries use. The name in ( ) is the brand name and may vary by country. You can look up the generic name on the internet to find other brand names. Some of them may be available without a Rx over the counter (OTC), Rx only or unavailable in the US.) Contact your vet for dosages and Rx.
Research this information. It provides a good starting point for questions to ask your Vet.
DOG Dose Calculation is….(Dose Rate) x (Body Weight in kg) = (Dose in mg).
Drug Name…………Dose Rate x Dog kg=DogDose mg. Frequency……Cats have lower dosages
Chlorpheniramine OTC..0.4mg/kg…x……= ?…..…….Twice daily…… Cat dose rate,Cat1st choice
(Iramine)
Promethazine………1mg/kg….x…..…...=?………..…Twice daily………...Cat dose rate
(Phenergan)
Dexchlorpheniramine..0.4mg/kg.x…..….=?…..…..…..Twice Daily
(Polaramine)……..
Cyproheptadine ….0.1-0.2mg/kg.x…..…=?……….…Every 8-12 hours…...Cat dose rate
(Periactin)..
Diphenhydramine OTC..2-4mg/kg..x……=?……..……Twice daily
(Benedryl)
Terfenidine………..2-4mg/kg….x……….=?……..…...Twice daily
(Teldane)
Diphenylpyraline…0.1-0.2mg/kg.x………=?…………Every 8 hours
(Histalert)
Azatadine.???????????????Dog.dose=0.5-1mg per dog ???? Twice daily...Cat dose rate
(Zadine)
Loratadine…OTC…….0.5mg/kg……x………=?……….…Once daily ………… Cat dose rate
(Claritin)
Cetirzine..OTC.??????????Dog dose=0.25-1mg per dog ???Once daily
(Zyrtec)
Hydroxyzine…….2-4mg/kg…..x………=?…………..Every 4 hours………..Cat 0.2-0.4mg/cat
(Atarax)
ALWAYS CONTACT YOUR VET BEFORE GIVING MEDICATIONS TO YOUR PET
IF THE PET SHOWS DISTRESS, STOPS EATING OR DRINKING, CALL VET IMMEDIATELY

Also, you could try an elimination diet. I can help you with that. I is more effective than testing. I will post a topic on it later.
I hope the Apoquel works. It’s is a miracle. Best of luck.
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:09 AM
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Stop using apoquel now!!!

Yes, this drug works to stop the itch but at the cost of KILLING and DESTROYING your dog from the inside out!!!! Just do a Google search and read all the medical journals on the tests and results - very alarming!!!

Here's a couple:

I Wouldn't Give My Dog This New Allergy Drug - Dogs Naturally Magazine

Apoquel: Dog Drug With a Dark Side

My dog was on Apoquel and I noticed his health changed in a bad way, but hey his itching was less! (Sarcasm) I stopped immediately and looking for alternatives.
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Yes, this drug works to stop the itch but at the cost of KILLING and DESTROYING your dog from the inside out!!!! Just do a Google search and read all the medical journals on the tests and results - very alarming!!!

Here's a couple:

I Wouldn't Give My Dog This New Allergy Drug - Dogs Naturally Magazine

Apoquel: Dog Drug With a Dark Side

My dog was on Apoquel and I noticed his health changed in a bad way, but hey his itching was less! (Sarcasm) I stopped immediately and looking for alternatives.

When you have run out of options, and you have to turn to Apoquel or steroids to give your dog quality of life, then that should never be dissed. Especially, if giving a particular drug is recommended by a person's vet when all else has failed. Should we educate ourselves on the risks of these drugs? Absolutely! But we should base our decision on the quality of life for our pets.

A long and miserable life of continuous scratching and skin infections, in my opinion, does not beat a shorter life span, free of continual misery.
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Old 07-28-2016, 12:32 PM
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Yes, this drug works to stop the itch but at the cost of KILLING and DESTROYING your dog from the inside out!!!! Just do a Google search and read all the medical journals on the tests and results - very alarming!!!

Here's a couple:

I Wouldn't Give My Dog This New Allergy Drug - Dogs Naturally Magazine

Apoquel: Dog Drug With a Dark Side

My dog was on Apoquel and I noticed his health changed in a bad way, but hey his itching was less! (Sarcasm) I stopped immediately and looking for alternatives.
Flip side of this coin...

My dog is on Apoquel, has been on it for about a year now, and I've notice 0 changes in his health and kept a very close eye on him because I know the drawbacks of the drug, I've done a ton of research, and at one point one of his vets was concerned to keep him on it due to lack of long term research and the potential to affect the immune system.

My boy has environmental allergies, there's no way I can avoid them unless I choose to keep him locked up in the house and maintain a scrupulously clean environment, and what kind of life would that be for him? Without it I'm stuck using Temaril P, considering that Benedryl does not work for him, nor does wiping him down when he comes in and frequent bathing. The Temaril P is horrible, he has no energy and just wants to lay around, "but hey his itching was less!". Without anything he scratches to the point that he causes sores to himself and pulls his hair out, oh joy, what fun, he sets himself up for skin infections, and yeast infections... So yes he's on Apoquel and he's doing fine on it, so far 0 side effects and his quality of life has vastly improved.

All drugs have drawbacks, and we have to way the good against the bad and make an educated decision on whether or not the risk are worth the benefits. As far me and my dog the benefits are worth it, and until something safer and better comes along we'll keep using it.
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That article in Dog's Naturally must have been written some time ago... concerns about young dogs, long term usage etc. have since been shown to be unfounded. Sure, no drug is perfect, but this drug is miraculous, and extremely safe as far as most drugs go that dogs can take. Sometimes it does not work that impressively, but there has been enough long term work that has shown that most of the concerns about its serious side effects are unsubstantiated. Works as well as steroids with a tiny fraction of the possible side effects, and certainly far better than any antihistamines. We have been using this drug for over a year now and been quite impressed with its effectiveness and lack of problems. But the dermatology specialists that have been using this drug for over 3 years now are even more impressed than we are. And more new 'miracle' drugs on the way... hope they turn out to be as good as this one (and cheaper, too... Apoquel is NOT cheap, and not going to be generic for many years to come).
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My dog was the first on my vets waiting list for Apoquel. It is great. A change in diet helped too. See my new post under home made dog food allergy. I've had her for 6 years and she never had fur on her belly and she was pink all over. Now, she is white and covered with thick fur. Good luck.
Abby can you tell me where to find your diet?
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