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Old 06-28-2019, 08:08 PM
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Anyone have experience with puppy with heart murmur?

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My daughter (28 yrs) is scheduled to pick up her Golden Retriever puppy tomorrow, but was told this afternoon that the pups health check today showed a grade 1 heart murmur.

The breeder was told that the chances are very high, that the pup will grow out of it, as most pups grow out of it by age 7 months.

Naturally my daughter is crushed by this news and torn whether to go ahead and bring this pup home. We all have been looking forward to this addition and in a way have already fallen in love with this little girl. My daughter has been visiting the pup twice since she was born, and sent us pictures of this beautiful, chubby little pup.

Has any of you any experience with pups with heart murmurs? What has the outcome been?
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Old 06-29-2019, 06:52 AM
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It is actually a grade 2 heart murmur, but they are on their way to pick her up right now. After the initial shock, and then trying to educate ourselves in the late evening hours, we found out that oftentimes puppies (from any breed), as they grow might present with a blood flow issue past the ventricles. As the puppy matures the ventricles strengthen and the blood flow returns to normal.

However, Golden Retrievers are one of the breeds that are prone to Aortic Stenosis, and if the pup's heart murmur were a higher grade it would definitely be something to worry about. She is otherwise healthy and well nourished so this is another factor in her favour.

They will try and see if the breeder is willing to shave a bit of the cost of the pup since this heart murmur might affect the pet insurance plan they are looking into getting out on her. They have an appointment with their own vet on Wednesday, and there is a full money back guarantee should any of their pups present with a health defect within the first year.
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Since they are buying her knowing about the "defect" make sure they will still cover it if it gets worse.
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Insurance companies, at least the ones I know about, will refuse to cover any 'pre-existing' conditions. I would check with whatever insurance you plan to use, and ask, what their policy is for this type of condition. Its possible, if she outgrows it, and a Vet declares her free of the murmur for some period of time, maybe a year or???, they would then cover her without exclusions, but I would sure check to know for sure.
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Thank you both for your replies Kyllobernese and Laco. My daughter did not even bring up the question about perhaps reducing the price, she said they were going to bring the pup home either way. I will let her know about the question if the insurance will cover future heart issues if she outgrows the heart murmur.

The pup has run into a new problem last night, she had picked up a deer tick. The head got stuck when she tried to remove it. The pup had received the Lyme vaccine, but it would probably not have been enough time to build up immunity. A friend of theirs is in a science field working on ticks, they're in good hands with him. Plus they have that vet appointment on Wednesday.
First day, and they are fully immersed in puppy worries!
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Too late to edit, but the tick head is now out.
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I'm so sorry to hear that. When we first got Nova, she threw up after the vet on the third day we had her and I remember freaking out and getting super worried. I know this is not as serious as the heart murmur or the tick of course. Just relating to new puppy owner worries!!! All the best for the little one an hope it all goes well at the vet.
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How's the little one doing? I may be way out in left field here not knowing what I am talking about, or talking apples and oranges. But I once had a dog who just before her 12th birthday (so we're talking senior here) got a Grade 1 murmur when she had an exam at the vet. Her vet took note as something to keep a watch for. For the remainder of her life and several visits to the vet, they never heard the murmur again. If a senior can get a murmur and then have it go away, perhaps a healthy puppy can have a great chance of the same? Hopefully...
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How's the little one doing? I may be way out in left field here not knowing what I am talking about, or talking apples and oranges. But I once had a dog who just before her 12th birthday (so we're talking senior here) got a Grade 1 murmur when she had an exam at the vet. Her vet took note as something to keep a watch for. For the remainder of her life and several visits to the vet, they never heard the murmur again. If a senior can get a murmur and then have it go away, perhaps a healthy puppy can have a great chance of the same? Hopefully...
Thank you so much for your comment shanshan, so very kind of you. Glad to hear, that your senior dog's heart murmur went away again.
What I found out during my google searches is that even things like anemia can possibly cause the heart to sound abnormal. So perhaps it was a passing issue that allowed your dog's murmur to disappear?

My daughter's little pup is doing very well. At the vet's on Wednesday they were told that the heart murmur is actually more between 1 and 2, and that a 1 is actually a bit difficult to hear for most people. They are not worried but will keep an eye on it. She has grown so much already judging from her pics, which would suggest that her heart has no problem transporting the nutrients where they need to go.
Heart murmurs in puppies are not uncommon. It is apparently a temporary weakness in the valves which will normalize in most puppies as they mature.
So for now we just wait it out and my daughter and her boyfriend are enjoying getting to know this little treasure and settling in their role as parents to a fur baby.
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