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Old 09-12-2016, 03:33 PM
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Anyone had a dog with Whipworms

I was hoping to hear from someone that has or had a whipworm infestation in their dog. Her yearly fecal test has never shown positive for whipworms and all of her fecal test this year were negative for whipworms. But she is at very high risk for them and she has most if not all of the signs and symptoms but of course, all those signs and symptoms could be 100 other things too.

Since we can't really just throw some Drontal Plus or PanacurC at her right now due to more serious conditions that need addressed first, it could be helpful to hear from someone that has experienced this firsthand with their dog.

We did have a possible sighting on the 2nd of the month, a day after her HG Plus monthly treatment. Merial said its possible that the Ivermectin could kill a weak whipworm but its not common. They said it usually takes 4 times the usual dosage for Ivermectin to effectively kill whipwoms. By the next morning, it had dried up and the vet could not find it.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:42 PM
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It is certainly possible to get a false negative result on a fecal flotation depending on whether the parasite is currently shedding ova. If all fecals have been done "in house" at you veterinarian's office I would suggest sending out a stool sample to a reference lab ( Idexx, Antech), as their flotation and centrifugation methods often exceed what we can do in the clinic. Be sure to supply an adequate, fresh sample!
As far as visualizing whips in feces - they are tiny. Would be quite difficult to observe adult with the naked eye...
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:02 PM
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Thank you for that info. Antech did the last fecal but like you said if they are not shedding at the time. I had thought I seen something and then looked at it 25X with field microscope, otherwise as you say, I would have dismissed it as they are very small. Unfortunately I am exhausted 24/7 caring for her and was too tired to try to look at it any further that night. I wish I would have taken more time but its hard enough getting up every two hours every night and keeping the meds straight that I am giving her. One night about a month ago her mycophenolate was due at 4 am and somehow I must have been sleep walking because I left the bedroom where I keep her meds and went into the bathroom, dropped the pills, and noticed they were methylprednisolone. Another time I was carrying ketoconazole and thought I had Medrol. I must have woke up at that point and realized that she had her Medrol at 2 am already. Its really rough, I have even fallen asleep standing up at times and a couple times fell before I woke up. Truly exhausting but I could not live with myself if I didn't keep trying to do everything right for her
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Old 09-13-2016, 12:27 AM
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Never once heard of someone diagnosing whipworms by seeing the adult worms (sure it's happened, but extremely rare). If fecals are negative, I would assume your pet does NOT have whipworms. They almost always show up on routine fecals. Some labs can run a PCR for certain worm species (Idexx has a PCR for round worms now and it's way more sensitive than the standard fecal test). Why is it you think your pet has whips? Not sure where you live, but they are very rare in the area I currently live in, but were quite common when I lived on the east coast.

Not sure what illness your pet has, but few are bad enough that a dog would not tolerate a dose of Drontal or Panacur... pretty darn mild medications. Either way, I doubt your pet has whips anyway.
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My dog had them as a pup but never after that. Why are you not able to give her Drontal?
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I would doubt your dog has whipworms if they didn't show up on the fecal. Also, unless your dog was very heavily infested by them, it wouldn't cause any big issues that you would notice, and it would show up on the test then anyway.
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The Vets won't give anything right now but the meds they are using to try and stop her GI bleed and her lupus meds. Even the Prazi they gave a month ago aggravated the bleed. She has lupus and has adverse reactions to a lot of medications so we have to clear up the bleed first without just throwing things at her. Unfortunately her variety of lupus is bad and even the lupus meds have to be at real high doses to stop the lupus. And then if her lupus is SLE then that alone could be eating her GI tract up. I know its hard for people to understand how lupus affects a dog unless they have had that happen first hand and it was SLE or a severe case of DLE that affected the mucous membranes too. Those folks that have had to go through a severe case of Lupus, my thoughts and prayers are with you
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I forgot to mention.....the reason BABY is at high risk for whipworms is due to she is / or was a tracking dog. She has tracked everything from lost pets to large wildlife such as cougars and bobcats, and even a few criminals. She is allergic to chicken and flea medications so Heartgard Plus with beef was our best option. Unfortunately it does not kill whipworms. She has her nose and tongue to the ground all the time and with the large amount of tracking jobs she has done, she has more than likely licked up and sniffed up things that she shouldn't.

With this new bleed, we are having to look at all options. And we had seen what appeared to be a whipworm under magnification. Here is a bit from another thread.....

"Yes, they have sent fecal samples to a lab, however, I don't think they pushed to find out what the larvae / cocoon the vet seen earlier this year was.

The problems are compounded and they take too long to find out all of this stuff as far as I am concerned.

But I am working to find out;

1. What that larvae / cocoon was and if its still there. Vet thought it may have been contaminated dry food but unlikely as she was on RC dry veg at the time and they kill all organisms by how they package their dry food. Unless the bag had a hole but that was tested and there was no leaks in the bag.

2. Clearing up a GI bleed. Could be stomach, small intestine, and possibly large intestine. Some of the blood was dry flecks but some was wet sticky flecks. The lab said there was a significant amount of blood. No kidding, why I took her in a few weeks ago to begin with.

3. Finding the root causes of the GI bleeds. One could be her steroid usage but its at a acceptable level for the past 3 months. Her Mycophenolate was contributing to her GI bleed and that has been discontinued. She could have a diseased GI tract. And its possible she could have whipworms but the vet tested and found no eggs but I don't think they can call that 100% with one Antech test. Because of her lupus and hypersensitivity, we have to be careful treating for things unless we have good evidence.

4. And finally if we can get her GI tract back in better shape. Using Sucralfate slurry and Tagamet treatments. We then may be able to try to work on a diet change. And thats if she does not have a lupus flare in the meantime since we had to discontinue the Mycoph.

Its a lot for this little 14 pound dog to deal with, that's for sure. Her lupus really bites!

Has anyone had a dog with whipworms? I know all of the signs and symptoms but it would be good to hear from someone experiencing that first hand."
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still seems extremely unlikely the lab would miss Whips if they were present, though repeated fecals is always a good idea. But if your pet DID have whips, and there was GI bleeding, you would definitely want to get rid of them ASAP as that is the primary symptom of Whips- GI bleeding! No sense in not treating them IIFFF they are there, no matter if she gets a bit sick from Panacur or not. Better than exacerbated GI bleeding!
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:35 PM
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Antech said they needed more samples to be sure. And if they end up showing positive, then the doctors will have to decide when and what to treat with since they have 4 and maybe 5 options. One of the Vets said if she does have whipworms, they are having a rough time right now as one of her meds wreaks havoc on them and why we may have seen a dead one a while back.

I am surprised that only one person that seen this has had to deal with whipworms
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