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Old 03-06-2016, 09:44 AM
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Allergies or something else?

Ugh, someone please give me some ideas here. My 19 month old siberian husky has been having some problems. This started when she was about 8 months old.

Every month or so she'll break out in some sort of "hot spot" either on her mouth, ears, or paws. It's usually her mouth, primarily worse on one side and it turns her normally black lips to pink, becomes swollen and itchy, and she starts losing hair in that area.

Sometimes her ears become flakey, itchy, and red. Right now it has progressed into a really nasty ear infection, hence why I'm desperate for an answer and making this post.

She has had only a couple issues with her paws. Seems like certain toes will bother her to the point of chewing them constantly despite irritating them further.

These things take weeks to go away... sometimes with antibiotics, sometimes on their own, and sometimes they only subside for awhile only to come back with a vengeance.

I have been to three vets. One said could be allergies, and the other two said she was sensitive to getting dirt/bacteria in certain areas?? I keep her clean though. It seems strange to me that she could simply step in some mud in the backyard and I have to worry about her getting an infection?? How do you prevent something like that?
No one can give me a solid answer.

Also one vet confirmed it was NOT mange.

I need your ideas. Anyone who has experienced something like this, I would greatly appreciate a reply.

Might be able to include pictures later.
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What happens before these episodes happen? Do you go anywhere? Different food or treats? Do you use any chemicals on your floors or outside? You could try to write down everything you can think of and see if there is a common factor.
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I have been to three vets. One said could be allergies, and the other two said she was sensitive to getting dirt/bacteria in certain areas?? I keep her clean though. It seems strange to me that she could simply step in some mud in the backyard and I have to worry about her getting an infection?? How do you prevent something like that?
No one can give me a solid answer.

Also one vet confirmed it was NOT mange.

I need your ideas. Anyone who has experienced something like this, I would greatly appreciate a reply.

Your dog is experiencing auto-immunity issues, ie her body is attacking self, basically immune cluster bombs are going off in her body. Once this happens it is very, very difficult to resolve, but you can improve it immensely. Conventional vets IMO do not have the correct tools to fix the problem, all they can offer is medications like prednisone that suppress the immune response and Apoquel (Oclacitinib) an immune modulator which prevents enzymes called kinases which stop some cytokines from doing their job. These medications exact a toll on a dog's body, with long-term use of drugs like Apoquel you see side-effects and the effectiveness of the medication declining.

I would look to consulting a holistic vet who will be able to provide a multi-prong approach that will help heal the immune system, involving nutrition, supplements, detox and a very conservative approach to future vaccinations.

ETA: It doesn't matter what the trigger is because when your dog is reacting to everyday things like flea saliva, chicken or grass etc, they are in immune confusion and that is the issue that needs to be resolved.

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What kind of food is she eating? Have you tried changing that up at all?
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Read this and see if you think its systemic yeast. My hound had chronic ear infections I switched to Zignature. Its grain free potato free I think it helps. If you want it I can also give your the name of the ear product I used and the instructions to use it. My hound has not had a ear infection in over 5 years.
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Read this and see if you think its systemic yeast. My hound had chronic ear infections I switched to Zignature. Its grain free potato free I think it helps. If you want it I can also give your the name of the ear product I used and the instructions to use it. My hound has not had a ear infection in over 5 years.
Dog Allergies, Dog Itchy Skin, Dog Scratching, Systemic Yeast Infection in Dogs | Allergies, Malassezia Fungus Candida, yeast overgrowth in dogs, yeast in dogs | GREATDANELADY.COM
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Read this and see if you think its systemic yeast. My hound had chronic ear infections I switched to Zignature. Its grain free potato free I think it helps. If you want it I can also give your the name of the ear product I used and the instructions to use it. My hound has not had a ear infection in over 5 years.
Dog Allergies, Dog Itchy Skin, Dog Scratching, Systemic Yeast Infection in Dogs | Allergies, Malassezia Fungus Candida, yeast overgrowth in dogs, yeast in dogs | GREATDANELADY.COM
But what causes the systemic yeast in the first place? It might well be yeast, which found with heavy metal toxicity and a compromised microbiome (antibiotics being a major culprit) and given that 70% of the immune system is in the gut, it again goes back to immune dysregulation.
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I second going to a holistic or homeopathic vet. The one my guys see work wonders. Though they will also use traditional meds when needed. I'd at least go and see what they have to say.
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What happens before these episodes happen? Do you go anywhere? Different food or treats? Do you use any chemicals on your floors or outside? You could try to write down everything you can think of and see if there is a common factor.

Well the hardest part about it is the inconsistency of the bouts of irritation.

One thing I can tell you is the first time it happened she sniffed some cleaner containing bleach and her snout swelled up awfully. This progressed into the mouth irritation that she now gets so often. It was the worst that first time. I took her to the vet and had it cleared up with antibiotics. But now it seems like she's getting it every couple o' months accompanied with flaky, itchy ears... sometimes eyes.

I do use cleaner but I'm really careful about keeping her away from things I'm cleaning ever since that happened.

Thought it might be swimming but she hasn't swam at all this fall/winter.

One thing I know for sure is it's some intolerance inside HER because I have another dog that never leaves her side and has never had anything like this or allergies of any sort.

Food is going to be my starting point if it is indeed an allergy. I have reason to suspect she may be allergic to beef. So I'll start by cutting that out.
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Your dog is experiencing auto-immunity issues, ie her body is attacking self, basically immune cluster bombs are going off in her body. Once this happens it is very, very difficult to resolve, but you can improve it immensely.
Would you be able to link me to an accurate article on auto-immunity issues so I can read more about it?
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