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Old 09-12-2010, 11:25 AM
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^great advice, I ditto this
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:46 AM
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Diet: On a combination of kibble that is all within the guidelines of nutrition for a big puppy, consisting primarily of Solid Gold Wolfcub. (I'm looking for something better, but I can't find anything that's sold in any local pet stores or feed shops. I've heard Blue Buffalo and Eagle Pack, but they both have way too much calcium.)
what???? eagle pack is THE BEST food for a growing large/giant breed IMHO. eagle packs large and giant breed puppy is THE ONLY puppy food i would EVER use. they have done extensive research on their food in conjunction with growth diseases. they have been proven to be the safest.

also when you are looking at a food its not the calcium that you need to look at. you need to be looking at calories, calcium/phosphorus ratio, etc. these are ALL factors. too many people focus on just calcium and thats incorrect. the food needs to be looked at as a whole, for example: calories need to be watched because increase calories = increase energy/growth.

i had a dog with HOD, i know a lot about nutrition and growth problems as i researched it extensively to try to save her life. if it were me, i would get that dog x-rayed. those joints are far too large and there is a curve at the pastern. look for any soreness, feel if the joints are hot, watch for fevers, etc. but most of all get some good x-rays first, and i would switch to eagle pack foods. solid golds calories are too high at 375 cal per cup, their protein is too high at 26% ( wouldnt go over 24%, and yes, that 2% is a big difference), and the phosphorus calcium level is incorrect, its 1.5/1.2 when if the calcium is 1.5 the phosphorus should be at 1.
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Old 09-12-2010, 12:40 PM
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Ease up, please. I've done everything within my knowledge for this puppy, and am currently hating myself feeling like I hurt him. It's not like I haven't been pouring money and effort into TRYING to feed him the right way. It's not like he's been spared any effort or expense toward vetting.
I've had him less than a month.

Did that month of feeding him expensive high-quality food that was within guidelines A, B, and C, but not D put his life in danger?

He's not sore at all. He's not limping. He doesn't have a fever. His joints aren't any warmer than the rest of him.


I came here for some advice and comfort, now I'm convinced that I gave him some bone disease with no cure, and I'm starting to wish I never even got him so that he wouldn't be stuck with someone as ignorant and apparently careless as me.
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Old 09-12-2010, 12:53 PM
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Ease up, please. I've done everything within my knowledge for this puppy, and am currently hating myself feeling like I hurt him. It's not like I haven't been pouring money and effort into TRYING to feed him the right way. It's not like he's been spared any effort or expense toward vetting.
I've had him less than a month.

Did that month of feeding him expensive high-quality food that was within guidelines A, B, and C, but not D put his life in danger?

He's not sore at all. He's not limping. He doesn't have a fever. His joints aren't any warmer than the rest of him.


I came here for some advice and comfort, now I'm convinced that I gave him some bone disease with no cure, and I'm starting to wish I never even got him so that he wouldn't be stuck with someone as ignorant and apparently careless as me.
i dont feel i was being hard on you at all. in fact i think you are being too hard on yourself! im offering advice, not only advice, but FIRST HAND experience.

a month of unbalanced nutrition can cause a problem that fast. growth disease tend to strike up til 6months of age, at which that point they usually phase out because the dog isnt growing as fast. im not saying your dog does indeed have an issue, but i think its best you have x-rays done and change the nutrition to what should be for a growing dog of large size.

i wouldnt be hard on you about this, i just want you to have the CORRECT information to help sort this all out. i had a dog suffer from HOD, of which in the first 3 months of it she couldnt even sit up. here i was trying to find out everything i could to fix it because no one else could help me. i wish i had the valuable information in the beginning instead of having to research it all myself. the vets were no help when i came to the nutrition she needed to stop it all, all they could offer me was pain maintenance, etc. but it had to come down to nutritional support to control the disease.

growth diseases are not life lasting. the effects can be, but the disease isnt. my danes front legs are permanently disfigured because of it, other than that though, she has no limitations or pain. although i am still scared that the medications that she had to be on for so long will shorten her lifespan, which is short already.

youre not ignorant and careless, trust me. youre coming on here looking for help of which proves you care and you want to learn. im just trying to give you the information you need and give you the CORRECT information you need to have healthy, steady, slow growth in your dog.
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I have a dog with "horrible conformation" (the vets words not mine) and his wrists look a bit like your dogs. That said, my dog is grown and yours is still a puppy, so it may just be the puppy uglies (i mean that in an endearing way btw)



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Old 09-12-2010, 04:57 PM
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I was overly emotional when I replied to you earlier, I'm sorry for that. The thought that I did something to hurt this baby is killing me, especially when I read around about bone diseases and found that distemper can contribute, then I was stressing over whether or not be could have distemper.. (He's allergic to my cat, so he has a runny nose, sneezes, and recently had a very minor eye infection.. All leading me to worry, when coupled with this. I'm a very easily worried person. :/)

I do appreciate the advice, and will be getting him some eagle pack when I get paid wednesday. It's hugely relieving to finally have someone say "____ Is the right food. Feed that and he'll grow well."

He should be eating the large breed puppy formula, correct, not the adult one? When do I switch him to adult food?
Is it ok to add canned food, fruits and veggies to his kibble, or should it ONLY be dry kibble?
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He's allergic to my cat
Is this what your vet said? Is he on meds to deal with the symptoms?

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he has a runny nose, sneezes, and recently had a very minor eye infection
Again what has your vet said? Has he ruled out distemper and other illnesses?
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"Is this what your vet said"

Yes.
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did the vet rule out distemper and did your vet put your dog on meds for the allergies?
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There's no actual reason to think he has distemper, so my vet didn't do a blood test to rule it out, no.
(Once he's out of the apt and away from the cat, his nose is dry and he's a normal healthy puppy. The only symptoms he gets inside are slightly itchy eyes, clear watery nasal discharge, and sneezing if the cat's right in his face.)

I have GAD and I'm a hypochondriac. I worry endlessly and needlessly about any and every thing. If he were salivating I'd think he was rabid. If he was overweight I'd be sure he had parvo.

He's not on meds for allergies, other than benadryl. Why on earth would he be?
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