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Old 09-26-2012, 08:16 AM
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A good recall comes from good training.
Kikopup on youtube has some good methods. I also really liked this video:

I can call Niko off a squirrel or rabbit if he takes after it on a hike, he will stop and come strait to me when i call or whistle for him (I allow him to chase them on hikes since i know he wont catch them and I can call him off if he is getting to close or far away). He doesn't try to chase deer (i taught him they are not allowed since they could hurt him with hoof or antler) and when he sees them will come to my side and lean against me to let me know they are there if I dont see them first.

Niko has no herding instinct in him i think. He likes to BE herded and/or chased by the other dogs at the park and has never tried to herd them or people.

When he was a pup and I would run in the back field with him he would go after my ankles (not bite them but put his mouth beside my leg or shoe and growl or shake his head) but after about a week he learned that the games stopped when he did that and he stopped.

He does love to run ahead of me on a trail and then turn back around and do his herder dog stair down/stalk pose. I will freeze and we look at each other a second and then rush each other (kinda like playing chicken...?) I dont know if thats just Niko but im guessing its herding/driving instinct that he has turned into a game and "taught" me how to play with him.
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My Aussie is now 9 months, and she's the best dog I've ever known! I know it varies from dog to dog, but my girl is usually fine with about 30 minutes to 1 hour of solid exercise a day during the week, and I make sure to get her out to the dog park for a few hours during the weekend. So far she's been thriving on that schedule, although I try to get her out and about as often as possible to keep her stimulated and socialized.

Obedience is also very important, and I've noticed it's really helped keep her calm, alert, and focused on me when we're out in public. Aussie's aren't a dog for everyone, but if you know what you're getting in to, they're the best and most loyal dog you'll own!
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Thanks guys. Now I'm wishing these few years would go a bit quicker haha. But everyone has been a great help, so thank you!
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Dee, knowing how hard you work on training you could probably have a mild Malinois (though I don't suggest it to anyone). An aussie would be a great dog for your Just make sure (like you've mentioned) rescue or good breeder

Oh, and Flyball. Nuff' said.
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Thanks Bluepup! (but I think I'll stick to the aussie haha). Flyball would be great to get into

Also, to save starting another thread, I sent an email to a breeder I found online that lives a few hours away from me, just to get a feel for them.
I said:
Hi, I was just wondering about how often you tend to breed your dogs, and are there waiting lists? Also do you allow home visits to meet the parents of the dogs?
I am interested in owning an Australian Shepherd, but not for another few years yet, just researching the breed and looking into breeders.

(I have no idea what to ask breeders... I mean I do, but I've never asked before haha)
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I only breed when I am looking for my next dog. At this stage, there may be another litter this year, but after that it will be at least 12 months before another. I don’t take waiting lists before puppies are born, but I will when I have a litter available. I do allow home visits to meet my dogs…and puppies once they are older than five weeks.

Puppies are usually around $1000 for a limit registered puppy plus a $200 desexing bond which is returned when evidence of desexing is provided to me. All puppies are vet checked, eye checked, wormed, vaccinated and micro-chipped. They come with an information pack which has details of parents health checks, puppy information, pedigrees, and some general information to help you get started. I ask all my puppy buyers to sign a companion agreement, which have things like agreement to desex the puppy at around 6 months, to keep me informed of any issues that arise. In return I guarantee to take the pup back at any stage in its life if it can no longer reside with you....I don’t want any of my dogs to go to shelters as they are busy enough.

If you have any other questions I can help you with, feel free to contact me


She seems like a good breeder from what I can gather (Of course I haven't met her or the dogs yet), but from what you guys see there does she seem like she might be a good breeder?
Pipoz Australian Shepherds This is the site.


I know it won't be for a few years, but I plan to be asking for advice here on everything breeder related. Never had anything to do with breeders, except staying at the house of a girl whose mum was a terrible breeder...



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They seem nice, do they do a background check with any buyers of their puppies? Other then that and the fact that they don't do a waiting list before pups are born, seems pretty okay. However you can only judge for yourself once you've met them

Also check out the sticky I made here: https://www.dogforum.com/general-dog-...g-puppy-11762/
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I'll have to ask. Useful thread, thank you So tempting to try for a puppy in the litter thats meant to come next year, but I know it most likely won't be the right time. I've gotten myself all excited for it haha
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Dee, knowing how hard you work on training you could probably have a mild Malinois (though I don't suggest it to anyone). An aussie would be a great dog for your Just make sure (like you've mentioned) rescue or good breeder

Oh, and Flyball. Nuff' said.
Mild malinois? Is that like one of those lazy border collies?

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Thanks Bluepup! (but I think I'll stick to the aussie haha). Flyball would be great to get into

Also, to save starting another thread, I sent an email to a breeder I found online that lives a few hours away from me, just to get a feel for them.
I said:
Hi, I was just wondering about how often you tend to breed your dogs, and are there waiting lists? Also do you allow home visits to meet the parents of the dogs?
I am interested in owning an Australian Shepherd, but not for another few years yet, just researching the breed and looking into breeders.

(I have no idea what to ask breeders... I mean I do, but I've never asked before haha)
and the response:
I only breed when I am looking for my next dog. At this stage, there may be another litter this year, but after that it will be at least 12 months before another. I don’t take waiting lists before puppies are born, but I will when I have a litter available. I do allow home visits to meet my dogs…and puppies once they are older than five weeks.

Puppies are usually around $1000 for a limit registered puppy plus a $200 desexing bond which is returned when evidence of desexing is provided to me. All puppies are vet checked, eye checked, wormed, vaccinated and micro-chipped. They come with an information pack which has details of parents health checks, puppy information, pedigrees, and some general information to help you get started. I ask all my puppy buyers to sign a companion agreement, which have things like agreement to desex the puppy at around 6 months, to keep me informed of any issues that arise. In return I guarantee to take the pup back at any stage in its life if it can no longer reside with you....I don’t want any of my dogs to go to shelters as they are busy enough.

If you have any other questions I can help you with, feel free to contact me


She seems like a good breeder from what I can gather (Of course I haven't met her or the dogs yet), but from what you guys see there does she seem like she might be a good breeder?
Pipoz Australian Shepherds This is the site.


I know it won't be for a few years, but I plan to be asking for advice here on everything breeder related. Never had anything to do with breeders, except staying at the house of a girl whose mum was a terrible breeder...


Sounds decent, though the no wait-list thing is a little weird. Could be cultural difference though. Have you asked about genetic health testing?

Also, this may be an unpopular opinion on here, but if you are serious about doing flyball (or agility, or any higher impact dog sport) I would check to see if you could fix the dog after the growth plates have sealed. There is evidence that early fixing promotes abnormal bone growth since the sex hormones are involved in the sealing of the plates. It's not that big of deal for companion dogs, but it is something to consider for performance ones who will be putting a lot more stress on their bones.

I'd bring up the reasons and the studies with the breeder, along with a plan of action with regards to the precautions you would take during the first heat to prevent extra litters. I would not let it be a deal breaker if the breeder says no-go, but I would def bring it up.
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I've known a number of low drive border collies. And a lot of low drive ACDs and Aussies. That is actually my biggest concern with Aussies or shelties- that I won't get a dog with enough drive.

And yeah, I would definitely recommend waiting on altering if you can. Around 2 years is what is often recommended (if at all).
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They KEEP the pups tails!!!! omi gosh im so jealous of you right now..

I really wanted an Aussie with a tail but it was too hard to get that from a breeder since you have to pick the pup out when its a couple hours old...

added to my reasons for visiting Australia... now I need a new notebook as this one is full...
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