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Old 04-15-2016, 05:18 PM
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And now my dog

: Hovawart

Size: medium-big (males are 63-70 cm in height and weight 35-40 kg, more or less)

Colors: black, black and tan or blond

Grooming requirements: they have a medium to long coat, with undercoat, wich means that during molting it has to be brushed daily. The long hair also means you have to take time to check for thorns (sometimes they gest stucked in the coat), ticks or dry leaves.
Normally though brushing them once a week is enough.
There is no need to wash them often: I wash mine once a year and his coat is always clean and shiny (and I swear it does not stink)

Energy level: medium. I walk mine 10 km every day, sometimes less if instead we play/use the bike, and I have almost daily small session of tricks and exercises, but if I have to I can reduce the walks for a few days and he does not mind (of course, if I were to reduce it always I'd have some problem)

Temperament: they are guard and defense dogs. They have an high vigilance and are quite protective of their humans (and also their humans things).
They don't bite unless absolutely necessary: they try to block/drive away the "enemy" barking and growling, and only bite if this doesn't work (if they bite though... they have big theet and a strong mouth).
Most of them are wary with people they don't know: a good socialization is vital... and still they will not be dogs that love people. They'll learn to tolerate these annoying humans that think they have a right to pet them and ask them to "sit" and "paw" (they look at these kind of people with very expressive eye, you can hear them saying "please tell me, who do you think you are? I should listen to you why, exactly? You do know you are nothing next to me, right?"), but they'll not enjoy it (it does not mean they have problems being around people, not at all)
In the family they are very expansive: they lick, cuddle...
They are smart (really smart... a "let's open the door/drawer/box, take what I need and close it, so the humans won't notice" smart), and it's not easy to get their respect: they will listen to you only if they think you are smarter then them (at 4 months old, my dog saw a fence, and inside the fence there were 3 chickens. He looked, walked around the fence, found the gate, jumped, pushed the latch that kept it closed with his nose and opened the gate. All of this in less than a minute, and he had never seen this kind of latch before. Being smarter than this is not so easy).
Males especially can be dog aggressive. It does not necessary mean that they were not socialized enough. One can teach his dog to ignore other males, but if you think to put your male hovy with another male and exspect them to play, be ready for a very bad surprise (they are not the kind of dog that is "all bark no bite": if they fight, they fight)

Breed history: it's an old german breed, probably a descendant of the tibetan mastiff.
Its name means guardian of the court, and it was a loved dog in germany (many old law books, like from 1300-1400, said that whoever hurt an hovawart had to pay a fine, that was higher if the crime was committed in the night).
While it was born to protect the house, this dog also protected farm animals from wolves (gray color was not accepted so it could not be mistaken for the wolf) and helped the human with boar hunting.
After WW1 it risked extintion, but was saved by a group of men (among them Koenig, that thought every cattle dog breed and shephard breed, including the newfoundland, came from the hovawart) that used the remaining hovy in the black forest and german shephards, newfoundland, leonbergers and also what probably was an azawakh.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? This is a great dog, but is not a dog for everyone.It is not for you if you believe that dog should stay outside: this dog loves human company and needs to feel part of your everyday life (walking you to the bathroom as well).
It is not for you if you can't be patience: they mature slowly, so you'll have a 3 year old body with a 8 months mind, and that means a "big dog" with the energy and self-control of a big puppy. Also, during adolescence, they challange your authority, and one needs to have a lot of patience (losing it means losing the dog's respect, and this not something you want with an hovy)
It is not for you if you think you might challange them in a strenght show: they are stronger than us, and they know. Thinking you can get your dog to sit getting mad or raising your voice or spanking him means having a dog that will get mad, raise his voice, and show his teeth in turn
It is not for you if you find it difficult to say no and scold your dog when necessary: of all the hovy I've seen, the ones that were difficult and had problems were those that grew up with the "carrot or no carrot" way, praised when they did well and ignored when they did wrong. It's very risky doing this with hovawarts: they need to learn that some things are forbidden.
It is not for you if you have the kind of home where everyone comes and goes, if you think you'd like to say to a friend "sure, you can go, I'm not home but it's fine, the dog knows you", because it doesn't work with hovawarts, or if you enjoy having people in your house and you don't mind them walking around on their own: the dog might, especially if they start touching your things (I've seen with mine: when he was 8 months old I had a couple of friends at home. Once it was time for them to go, I went in the kitchen to get something for them, and one started getting ready, took her purse, then moved to take her coat, that was under mine. As soon as she touched my coat, Baloo jumped in front of her barking and growling, I ran out and found her against the wall, with her hands up, and Baloo growling. He calmed down as soon as I got there: apparently no one touches my things if I'm not there)

This is a great dog, a great guard and defense dog, and one should appreciate this breed for everythin it is.

Health: This dogs are extremely healthy. In europe, hip dysplasia hits 4% of hovawarts, more or less, and evry other medical problem less than that.
That is because germans worked really hard on this, and their work should be respected and continued, so make sure to buy only from people that test dysplasia (both hip and elbow), eye problems (progressive retinal atrophy) and (there have been a few cases in the last years) degenerative myelopathy.
It should be noted that, while they are big dogs and molossoid dogs, their life expectation is around 14 years

What is your breed experience? I own one

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Old 04-24-2016, 10:40 PM
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Breed: American Pit Bull Terrier
Size: 30-60lbs
Colors: Black nose with black, red, buckskin, black & tan point, brindle, seal or fawn coat.
Red nose with chocolate, red, buckskin, chocolate & tan point, red brindle, chocolate brindle or fawn coat.
Blue nose with blue, red, buckskin, blue & tan point, blue brindle or fawn coat.
When both liver (red nose) and dilute (blue nose) are inherited the coat color ranges from lilac, champagne, lilac & tan point, lilac or champagne brindle.
White markings may be present, up to having a solid white coat.
Eyes can be brown, amber, blue or green.

Grooming requirements: The short coat does not require that much grooming. Brushing during shedding is advisable. Bathe and trim nails as needed.

Energy level: Medium to high energy. Most Pit Bulls can settle very well in the home, but be sure to provide plenty of exercise to curb boredom and destruction. It is even better if you can give them a job or dog sport to participate in. Combine physical activity and training.

Temperament: The breed temperament should be balanced and confident. The Pit Bull should not exhibit human aggression, but a fondness for human interaction and attention. Some Pits experience separation anxiety due to the attachment to their owners. They have a strong bond to people and most can be considered velcro dogs. Pit Bulls love children and should be very tolerant of them, many can be gentle, but if they are excitable they could knock over a small child. Most Pit Bulls are sensitive to their owners, if scolded they will look very hurt. Overall they are relatively easy to train, though it can vary how quickly they pick things up from one dog to the next. Pit Bulls usually want to please you, so praise goes a long way, some can also be highly food driven.

When it comes to other dogs, the Pit Bull might exhibit dog aggression. The level of which depends on the individuals genetics and training. Many are dog social and happily play with other dogs, but many are also dog selective, only enjoying the company of select dogs. Some Pit Bulls do not desire to play with other dogs at all and can barely tolerate them, unfortunately some also have a high fight drive and so it is best for them to be kept away from other dogs. It is not recommended to take Pit Bulls to dog parks in general. One should also be aware of the fighting style and capability they can posses even if dog social.

Pit Bulls typically have a medium to high prey drive. Just as with dog aggressive, the level of prey drive varies depending on breeding and training. Some want to chase all small (or even large) prey animals, but if raised with other animals they can get along with them. A Pit Bull might be fine with the cats they were raised with, but still have a strong prey drive towards other cats and animals. So that is something to keep in mind when taking your dog around other animals. It is important to keep Pit Bulls contained or on lead like any other prey driven breed.

Breed history: Not everyone agrees upon the same breed history. One school of thought is that Pit Bulls descended from purely bulldogs and have been preserved all this time as such. Bulldogs were used to work and bait bulls in the UK. These dogs were also used in dog fighting pits. Though it is hard to believe they would have survived completely pure for all these centuries. Especially since they were not a pure breed as we define breeds in modern times. Dogs back then were bred for function, if they completed the job, if they survived, they would bred. This did not require a narrowed, "pure" gene pool, only that the dogs did the job needed.

Another commonly accepted history is that Pit Bulls came from crossing bulldogs and game terriers. At the time many working terriers were also a type, breeds developed by looks or location. There were differing strains of bulldog and terrier, it is possible some pit dog breeders crossed these breeds together to form their own fighting dogs. Even though bulldog type dogs were used in fighting pits, terrier blood cannot be discounted, because terriers were also used to fight prey in work or blood sport.

The truth is that many different dogs were used as the foundation for the modern APBT, with dogs imported from different countries. Some were more bulldog, some more terrier, some a good mix, they were of different sizes and looks- 20lbs, 70lbs, short square muzzle, long snippy muzzle, short legged, long legged, ect. This variance came about because different men were doing breeding that they thought worked best or families kept their own strains of pit dogs for generations. As people immigrated to the United States they brought pit dogs with them, bringing this breed and blood sport to America for refinement. It is also documented that some Bull Terrier blood made it's way into the Pit Bull gene pool up to the early to mid 1900s, during which time a number of Pit Bulls were AKC registered as Bull Terriers. Pit dogs were imported for decades and continued to be bred primarily for dog fighting, though some were kept as pet dogs, hunting dogs, guard type dogs of property, cars or buggies (usually trained to tackle and hold people, rather than bite), farm dogs or even police dogs. Though historically and even presently the Pit Bull has been associated with dog fighting they actually developed into a very versatile breed.

What should potential first time owners be aware of?
Some things to be aware of are dog aggression, fighting ability and prey drive as previously mentioned. Athletic ability and determination are two others, this might be positive traits for sport dogs, but it can make a pet dog capable of being an exceptional escape artist.
There are people who will hate or fear your dog, just because they are a Pit Bull. You need to be prepared for that. Some people will negatively stereotype you because you own a Pit Bull.
If you are a renter it might be difficult to find housing while owning a Pit Bull. If you are a home owner insurance choices can be limited and having a Pit Bull might also cost you more. Breed specific legislation exist in some cities or could be enacted in your city. BSL ranges from requirements and restrictions for Pit Bulls/their owners up to a complete ban on Pit Bulls within that city.

Anything else?
This breed is fairly healthy, they do not have a high frequency of serious health problems. Though some to be aware of are hip dysplasia, heart defects, hypothyroidism, allergies, cone rod dystrophy, demodex, degenerative myelopathy, hyperuricosuria, cleft palate (can be genetic or environmental), mass cell tumors.
If you are going to a breeder make sure to find one that really cares about preserving and improving the breed. Pit Bulls are one of the most common breeds, so finding a breeder is not hard, but finding a good dedicated one is not easy. Learn as much as you can about different breeders and bloodlines. If you choose as bad breeder you could set yourself up for a temperamentally unsound dog or one with health issues.
If you want to adopt a dog make sure you go through a tumors good rescue that will give you information on available dogs and help match up to one who fits your lifestyle. If you want to go the shelter route (there are many Pits or Pit mixes in shelters) try to spend as much time with the Pit(s) your interested in as possible. Some shelters do temperament testing and as much interaction as they can, but not all do so it's important to get a good assessment for yourself as you possibly can.

Breed experience: I have been around Pit Bulls most of my life and have been competing with / breeding them for many years. I have experience with a good number of different bloodlines and also rescue or pet bred Pits too.

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I know this a bit off topic but I can't throw Bandit into this one (he's pure mutt!) but I just wanted to say to all the Sheltie owners out there that I am super jealous! Every single time I see a picture of a Sheltie I think I'm staring at a painting, they are just so beautiful!
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Breed: astralian cattle dog
Size: medium, 40- 50 lbs
Colors: brown blue, tricolor, usually speckeled
Grooming requirements: a good vacuum once a week should do it. (Kidding, although my dog has let us vacuum him before) just done brushing not to bad.
Energy level: high definetly high
Temperament: friendly excitable not to bothered by most dogs but will become the enforcer when fights break out
Breed history: herding wascreated by mixing dingos with other herding dogs, though the actual breed isn't definitive some day they where blue merle drovers dogs and others say border collie and others say dalmations. I personally believe it was drovers dogs. There was a romour the red cattle dogs are more dingo than the blue. I can see why!
What should potential first time owners be aware of? energy level and potential stubbornness. The are very intelligent and learn fast but sometime decide not to listen in none critical situations e.g they don't want to sit or lay down they want to run.
Anything else? The are a Velcro dog and will love you forever.
What is your breed experience? Owned 2 and met loads at the dog parks and other events.
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A)austrailian shepherd/Australian cattle dog mix
B) chihuahua

A) 35 lbs
B) 2.5 lbs

A) blue merle
B) black, brown, white

Grooming requirements:
A) lots of brushing, crazy shedder
B) just a bath ever once in awhile

Energy level:
A) super hyper, great cuddler after shes worn out
B) sleeps all day, basically zero energy, doesnt even bark which is out of character for her breed.

A) friendly to people and other dogs as long as mommy is standing up. If i sit down she becomes very overly protective.
B) mean, just plain mean to anyone and anything that isnt mommy.

Breed history:
A) working dogs, needs a job
B) companion

What should potential first time owners be aware of?
A) they need to stay busy or they get destructive. Daily excersise is a must, needs room to run and lots of play. Very loyal and great with older kids, tolerant. Can be nippy during play so beeds to learn boundaries.
B) ive heard they bark alot but mine doesnt. Not good with small children due to size and they are not very tolerant.
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[QUOTE=Laurelin;1786714]I thought this might be fun. It's always best to hear from actual owners!

Breed: Shetland Sheepdogs

Size: (M) 34lbs, (F) 21 lbs.

Colors: Sables

Grooming requirements: Heavy

Energy level: High

Temperament: (M) very outgoing, loves people, (F) shier at first, then warms up.

Breed history: (M) show dog blood lines, too big to show, (F) AKC Best Of Breed winner 2016 (retired)

What should potential first time owners be aware of? Can be very vocal and grooming needs. They love herding you.

Anything else? They hate shoes, vacuums, brooms, luggage, outside noises and leaving without them.

What is your breed experience? (ie I owned one dog, I bred the breed, etc) I own two dogs.

[\QUOTE] These are herding dogs, they love herding dogs! ( day care) Avery

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Breed: Lagotto Romagnolo

Size: 25-35Lbs

Colors: White, Brown, Roan, Orange and any mixture of these

Grooming requirements: Hypo-Allergenic but requires trimming as hair grows like ours!

Energy level: Working dog. Requires exercise. Is not lethargic, but does not tend to hyperactivity either.

Temperament: Loving, gentle

Breed history: Ancietn Italian Waterdog. Thought to be the foundation breed for all hypoallergenic dogs.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? Digging, gentle spirit requires a gentle but consistent touch in disciplining. Does not like to be left alone for hours

Anything else? Known as the Italian truffle dog, this dog specializes in finding underground mushrooms!

What is your breed experience? I breed the dog:

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Breed: Shiba Inu

Size: 15-25 pounds is the standard but larger dogs are common in the US.

Colors: Red, Black and tan, Sesame, Cream

Grooming requirements: Double coated breed that can blow their coat and shed heavily year round. Regular grooming required. Does not need to be clipped or trimmed.

Energy level: Young dogs can be very energetic but generally pretty laid back.

Temperament: Not for inexperienced owners. Shiba's are very intelligent and can come across as stubborn and opinionated. They are a Basal breed. Can be destructive and go through terrible twos. hey don't tend to develop good recall when off leash. They are also very loyal and funny.

Breed history: The smallest of the Japanese dog breeds. Shibas were almost extinct after WW1 but a breeding program was able to save the breed. They have not been in the United states for very long and are an uncommon breed in most places.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? Shiba Inus are generally not known to enjoy close physical contact. They enjoy being petted on their terms but are more like a cat in this respect than a dog. Adult Shibas don't tend to like to cuddle. Grooming and vet appointments can be trialsome. They will eat your house when they are around age 2. They tend to prefer to live alone and can have issues with other dogs. They are masters at escaping from restraints and fences and finding the right harness or collar can be a challenge. Double gating your doors is a good idea. Training is vital with these dogs.

Anything else? Be prepared to have many conversations with strangers about your dog. Introverts beware.

What is your breed experience? (ie I owned one dog, I bred the breed, etc)

I am a first time Shiba owner and have had my senior rescued dog for about a year. I have also spent a lot of time in the company of a friend's shiba inu getting to know the breed and spend a lot of time reading about them. I still have a lot to learn but I really have come to love these dogs.
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