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Old 11-29-2012, 02:51 PM
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Hey long time since I posted. My little man is going to be evaluated for Schutzhund. I'm nervous because I'm not sure what to expect at the evaluation. I know there are a few members here who do it. Can anyone tell me what to expect at an evaluation, and if there is anything I can do to help prepare for it?
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:18 PM
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If its a beginning eval, usually they will test his nerve and drive. Depending if he has had any prior training, they may go through obedience and beginner bitework.
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Thanks... I'm not sure if we will be doing it now. The guy who was going to eval Link said "the first thing you might want to do it get a breed who can do it.".... Boy did I give him an earful. Anyway we are probably going to try flyball instead since he enjoys fetching I don't need people snubbing their nose at me because I'm working my Great Dane and not a GSD or Mali. And what he really didn't like was that he told me he had been training GSDs for 30 years and part of the GSD club of America so on and so on, and I corrected him that it's "shepherd" NOT "shepard".... Jerk. And he spelled it that way repeatedly...
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Well, ignoring the spambots...

Your experience has basically been my whole experience with Schutzhund people. Very few of them are any type of people I would ever want to associate with. I'm sure there ARE nice Schutzhund people out there... but I could count them on one hand.

If someone could find a club and a trainer who strictly used ONLY positive methods (no physical or verbal corrections of any kind,) and y'know, weren't elitist jerks, then it honestly might be something I would enjoy trying to Mozart. But I think I'll have better luck being struck by lightning than ever finding that in my lifetime.
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That's too bad, GDM. Sometimes I wonder if arrogant people like that really care about the future of their sport.... You should tell him good job on being a bad representative.

I'm involved with gun dogs... have come across similar attitudes in that field, namely from "experienced" (read: older) men. Honestly, it's put me off so much that I've distanced myself from the field quite a bit in the past couple years--just don't need to deal with that right now. I will get involved again sooner or later for my dogs' sakes, but I am not looking forward to the man's man world that it is.
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First let me say sorry you had to deal with a jerk like that. It's not uncommon in the sport I hate to admit.
Our club is extremely open to any breed that wants to get involved. Currently we have GSDs, Rotties, a Boxer, a Beauceron, a Berger de Picard and my own Lancashire Heeler is working toward his tracking titles. At our club you will see motivational, reward based training. A few people have e-collars and pinch collars but I can't even remember the last time I saw one used. We are a very unusual club and I can guarantee all the other clubs in the area laugh at us behind our backs, but after 20+ years in the sport my husband and I decided we would rather lose a few points on the field and have our dogs and members derive joy from the sport.
Now having said that, I will say that we do tend to be a bit reluctant to roll out the red carpet when someone wants to bring out a breed that is overall less successful in the sport. We spend A LOT of time with newbies and it is pretty frustrating to spend all that time and effort just for them to realize that their dog isn't going to be a star on the field and they give up and move on to another sport. We invite everyone out and show them around and check their dog out. After that we want to see THEM expending the time and effort and then we will jump through hoops to help out, but we don't just hand them the keys to the store.
Keep looking, you may find another club more open to your dog. Check the DVG site for clubs as well.
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Well thanks. I think we're going to stick to trying flyball. Our local flyball team is really open to new dogs and very welcoming to new people. They even have an Irish Wolfhound who just joined in

Bocron- I'm very understanding of the time these dogs take to train. I'm a trainer myself and know that not every dog is cut out for every sport.all I wanted was a chance. Not to be shot down the moment the cat was out of the bag that he was a Great Dane. And this guy was found though the DVG website. I'm glad to hear you have evolved the training despite the criticism you might receive. I was more than willing to do the work. I knew it might be a longshot for him to be anything in the field, but that wasn't what was important to me. Spending the time with him, letting him try to learn new things, and to grow and develop into a great dog (which he will be anyway) were my main goals. Also to have the personal experience myself.

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Unfortunately, you will find that attitude a lot . Unless the trainer thinks its one of the elite, better off somewhere else, they won't give you a fair chance. I find that often in LE as well.
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I've gotten the same snobby attitude when I've tried to find an agility "mentor". Just because I don't have a BC or an Aussie, doesn't mean my Dachshund can't do agility.
It'd be awesome to see a GD do Flyball!
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There was a whole flyball team if Great Danes
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