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Old 09-17-2013, 04:15 PM
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SAR breeds?

I'm just curious as to what breeds make good Search and Rescue dogs?

I know efinley trains Bloodhounds for SAR. My trainer is training her 2nd SAR dog right now who is a Dutch Shepherd. Her previous dog was a Malinois, but he was unfortunately killed in an avalanche last year. I know lands are common in Avi rescue dogs. I have seen Newfies doing water rescues out of Heli's.

Now I'm not particularly looking for a SAR dog for a long while, but it is a consideration I have for the future.

I don't know if anyone on here knows too much about SAR. Malinois are the most appealing toe, but are there other options? I would want a very high drive dog for this (I would mostly be looking into avalanche and wilderness rescue).

This is just a loose query, I am not at the point where I can dedicate the extreme amount of training time and dedication for now.
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I've seen some Newfies do well at search and rescue, though they are much more suited to water rescue.
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Hi zoorun, I own and train sar k9s. I prefer mals and dutchies. Next favorite is border collies. Many mixed breeds can work, as long as their hunt drive is good. Labs are common, aussies, Gsds, any biddable, high drive dog really.
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For wilderness sar, you want a fairly light build, one that not only can cover many miles and work independently, but also one you can carry out if injured.
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What would you say Dutch Sheps, Mals, and working GSD's have in common and different? My GSD mix is high drive, but she doesn't quite have the drive for SAR even. I'm sure if I had trained her as a pup for it she would be great though.
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Gsd's,Labradors,Golden retrievers,Belgian malinois,doberman,Border collies.
I know of one SAR Rottweiler that aided in Hurricane Katrina and 9/11.
I think many dogs could be trained to do the work.
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I have recently read an article about an avalanche rescue group in Switzerland and they had Rottweilers.
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I didn't think of Dobes! I think I'm more drawn to the working style of the Shepherds though. I would consider a BC too, but since they tend to be velcro dogs I'm not sure, I'm sure it can be conditioned to be sent away a bit easier as a puppy though. I don't think Remy would be great at it, but my trainer agreed to show me some basics for SAR when she gets back from vacation, so we will see.

This is the first time I have actually considered doing this. This winter I will be getting better at Backcountry skiing, so I think that will give me a better idea on whether I would like to train an avi dog.

I talked to my trainer about Dutch Shep and Malinois because she has had both. She said her Malinois was a lot more intense and serious, and her Dutch Shepherd is a lot more goofy and fun loving, but still works really well.

This is my trainer`s Dutchie Goose:

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I have recently read an article about an avalanche rescue group in Switzerland and they had Rottweilers.
If online,do you have a link?
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Malinois tend to be serious about work. They go non stop, and have to be watched so they don't over do it. They are a very healthy breed. Work well in any terrain, weather, and are extremely agile.

Dutchies are mostly the same, though not as intense.

GSDs are harder to find good working bred dogs. They are plagued with health issues typically, are a much heavier dog, and have a shorter working career typically. They tend to look to you for every command where the mals and dutchies are pretty independent.

Border collies (work bred) have no problems ranging. They are agile and fast, work until you stop them, pretty healthy dogs.

Dobermans can be good, though not as serious as any of the above, their short coat leads to cuts and scrapes, and can't work as well in winter weather as the thicker coated breeds.

When selected properly almost any dog can work, but look at structure, size, health, and above al strong nerves. Intense drives, hunt is the most important, biddability,aans independence.
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