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Old 11-05-2013, 09:28 PM
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I've always like pointers (sometimes called English Pointers or just 'bird dogs') since they were the "hunting dog" when I was growing up in south Georgia. Too many people are rough with them, thinking that it makes them "tough" for hunting but, when given a chance and proper training, they're great pets and hunters.
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I met a Brittany the other day. She was a nice, pretty, active but not hyper little dog. I liked her. She was pretty little! I'd say 28 lbs? Though they do have a boxy torso that's very short so she may have been heavier. They're such a nice compact breed. Her mom says she doesn't like swimming.

I just talked to a guy who lives a few hours from us who breeds Munsterlanders. He's German man who's really serious about his dogs, and just loves them. I asked him every question I could think of.

I even asked him about how drivey their personalities are - after reading BigC's comment about them being the BC of gundogs. He feels they're relaxed in the house and definitely have an off-switch. I'd have to meet his dogs, but it sounds like the breed is great at compartmentalizing - they're in work mode when they're out in the field, and they're not when they're home.

He's open to selling to non-hunting homes because as he says, you really don't know when you sell to a hunting home if they're going to be hunting very actively, and what they'll do with the dog the rest of the time. It seems he'd be as happy to sell to someone who will train the dog to hunt (and/or do other things) and be working with it/taking it out daily rather than hunting a few days a year and then doing nothing with it the rest of the time.

He says Munsters are dogs who will exploit a weakness shamelessly, so although I don't think they're "hard" per se, it sounds like they're not exactly "soft" either, and need a lot of consistency and no bending of the rules. Though he did say some are easier going and some are more challenging in that way.

One thing I was happy to hear is that this breed is naturally inclined to have a relatively close range and check-in regularly. He says his biggest challenge with training for NAVDA is to teach the dogs to range out further and follow their initiative to pursue a scent with some independence. He said if I drove to a trail with one of his dogs, even though that dog doesn't know me, it would stick around. So not velcro dogs by any means but I certainly feel more comfortable that this is a breed that would not be difficult to train a reliable recall.

I've heard that American types of versatile hunting dogs tend to range further and faster than the European dogs. So his feedback supports that. I like that very much.

The other thing is that although he has a non-breeding contract, he doesn't care if or when I spay/neuter.

Seems like bitches range from 38-45 lbs and dogs are a bit bigger. I like the size.

They also shed very little. No double coat. And the hairs they shed are not those tiny spiky hairs that embed themselves in fabric and upholstery.

These are dogs that love to swim as well.
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Now I just have to meet some dogs. And then forget about them for another 10 years and hope this guy is still alive and breeding when I'm ready lol.
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Be honest to him that you're looking at getting the dog several years from now. And (assuming he continues to check out) you'd love to get a dog from him, but could he put you in contact with anyother breeders so that you're in the community making contacts.

Can't input otherwise, I don,t know tons about any of these breeds, tough I really liked the Tollers I met!
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I've let him know this is research for well into the future. So no one is being misled. The breeders I've dealt with all seem happy to hear from someone who's really trying to educate themselves.

He did mention a breeder in New York that he really respects. I'd found the kennel's site and thought their dogs looked great. One of his bitches went to this kennel and she looks like a lovely dog.

As far as other breeders - munsters are essentially a rare breed so there really aren't many options! However I do feel this breeder is excellent. He is adament that he breeds for health, and performance. I wouldn't say that he's breeding to change or advance the breed - he follows the standard rather than setting it. But for a breed that's being revitalized in general and introduced to North America, I feel that's appropriate.

There are around 3,000 munsters in North America. I was surprised to hear that his pups are $1,300, I thought that to be very reasonable. Though a pup would need to be reserved before birth - it would probably take a year or more to get your pup. They come dewormed (twice) with first shots, microchipped, imprinted in the home. I don't think he has dewclaws removed but I've never cared much about that.
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There is a fairly large munster following where I am from. If you are interested I could pm you some contact info of a really great lady who LOVES munsters, trials, hunts, keeps them as pets, etc. Let me know. Glad you had fun looking at breeds and are meeting some great dogs
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As far as other breeders - munsters are essentially a rare breed so there really aren't many options! However I do feel this breeder is excellent. He is adament that he breeds for health, and performance. I wouldn't say that he's breeding to change or advance the breed - he follows the standard rather than setting it. But for a breed that's being revitalized in general and introduced to North America, I feel that's appropriate.
I will say that there are definitely other options as far as breeders go - however I would find it hard to justify buying a dog that will be primarily companion from a breeder in another country. There are a number of breeders in the U. I thought that quite a few of these kennels looked pretty good but I haven't contacted them because I'd probably not be buying a pup from any of them.
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Hi!!

Can I pipe in for Brittany's ... praise their awesomeness and convince you to get one?!? Brit's are awesome bird dogs... but of all the bird dogs I personally know... dogs my friends have... Brits are THE best family dogs! Sweet personality, very loyal, eager to please, easy to train... and love to sit at your feet and chew a toy. They call Brits the "velco dog" and they are the are THE best companions. Very healthy breed! A Brit is one of those dogs that are just SO cute people can't help but come up to you and ask you about your dog. If you are willing to put the effort into owning a sport dog, then Brits IMHO will give you the most back as far as respect, love and companionship.
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Plott Hounds if you can tolerate tenacity and stubborn dogs. Mine is not a "hunting" dog but she is great with my 7 year old daughter, ignores the cat, loves chew toys, loves being outside, requires lots of exercise, easy to train and is smart as a whip. Outside she is a beast the instinct switch flips. Inside it turns off and she is laid back and mellow. She's happy just to lay on the couch and nap with you.
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Well, I'm in love with the viszla. Ours died this year at 13 but he was an amazing dog. He didn't shed much. He was really great with our toddler. He could find anything. I miss him like crazy because our other dogs are absolutely worthless at hunting. I watch our weim and wonder what went wrong with him, couldn't find a chicken if I tied it to his nose. I know they are hard to socialize with other animals because they have an exceptionally high prey drive. Ours didn't grow up with cats and he'd eat them if he could catch them. Some people do say they are fine with cats they grow up with. Our viszla was only 50lbs. He was a pretty small guy. Very lean. I never had a problem with recall for him. He was very very smart and extremely eager to please. He was my shadow. They call them velcro dogs. Great, now I'm depressed. Good luck picking!
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