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Old 07-18-2016, 11:36 PM
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Hi everyone. I'm in Mississippi. I'm a long time dog lover and owner. I have a 4 yr old GSD that I've raised from a pup, and am wanting to learn some new ideas about re-training some of his behavioral issues.
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:07 AM
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Fellow GSD owner here also. I'm curious, what behavioral issue would be the most important one you would like to modify?
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Old 07-19-2016, 11:28 AM
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Fellow GSD owner here also. I'm curious, what behavioral issue would be the most important one you would like to modify?
Hi. When off leash, Luke ignores me about 75% of the time.
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I'm sure you've worked the recall with some effort over the years and not neglected IMO one of the most important skills a dog needs to have. I don't know if the method I used from day one when my dog was a pup would necessarily be the route to take but the two most important things I made sure to do was 1.) only wonderful things happened whenever the dog recalled properly even if the dog was being a troublemaker. Never did the dog receive anything other than praise and reward when she recalled. I chose premium rewards such as a game of tug or fast motion grabs which my dog has a gigantic desire for. I also associated a cue for the pending reward such as " what's this" coupled with me picking something up or kicking something. She just can't resist this type of interaction and will give me her full engagement. 2.) I did my absolute best to never issue a recall command if I wasn't 99% certain she would do as commanded. As you well know, any repetition in known commands is just training the dog to pick and choose and is very nonproductive. If I believed the dog would not recall or failed to recall, I would go get the dog in a calm fashion so as not to incite any keep-away/chase baloney.

Question, you mentioned "off leash". I'm a believer that dogs get collar and leash smart, certainly a GSD has the intelligence to figure this out. Have you ever tried training the recall with a drag line or long line on the dog and then allow the dog free rein with the drag line still on after he has proven consistent with you working the long line? It's kind of a compromise of sorts. The dog still is dragging the long line but yet you are not attached to the other end.

Chances are you have done all of this and I apologize for perhaps wasting your time.
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Thanks for your response. I've never worked with a long line. That might be the ticket. He is wise to being put on leash, but never tries to run away from it. He is openly reluctant to come if we are in the area of his pen, and I understand that.
But it's his ignoring me, off leash, as tho he's deaf that I can't understand.
I will try the long line. I've always used treats and high voice excitement to reward correct behavior.
I assume I need to continue to treat on the long line too?
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oops double posted

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Using the long line should be done so the only time there is any pressure on the line is when the dog has failed after the first commanded recall and do not wait. Using leash pressure on the long line should be more of a directing force and if your dog exhibits opposition reflex than you need to train the dog to understand that moving toward the leash pressure is the desired response. Also, the moment the dog moves in the desired direction, all leash pressure ceases as long as the dog is headed into you along with your verbal praise and some excitement. Remember, every time the dog comes to you, it's a jackpot for the dog. Practice it inside off leash at odd times. Too many people rely on a recall or command it when the dog is distracted or getting too far out and the dog fails. The recall should be used everyday for most everything and at times for nothing at all BUT every time the dog obeys, it's a predictable result for the dog and the result is your praise and reward.

Heck yeah reward the dog when warranted while using the long line. I would suggest that if you know of a better reward which involves the two you interacting rather than a food reward, you might be better served over the long haul.
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