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Old 03-30-2010, 12:52 AM
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Stubborn Maltese! Help please!!

Well all my life my family has had a dog. We absolutely love them, and can't have a full family without one.
Therefore, we have never had a problem with house breaking them, until our little Maltese Sophie came around.
I've read countless times that a Maltese is one of the harder breeds to house train, and that they have a short term memory, therefore making it pretty hard for them to completely understand training.

We got her when she was 9 months old and immediately started the training. The first thing we did was put her on the grass and praised her when she was done with her business. When she would have an accident inside, we would take her to her little pile of mess and tell her in a deeper tone, "NO, BAD GIRL," etc...and take her outside and put her on the grass so she knows that is the appropriate place to go.

We have done that with all of our dogs and every single one has been perfectly potty trained.

But not little Sophie. 4 years later and she STILL has an accident at least once everyday. Sometimes twice. We keep her in a tiled room when we sleep. She has her food and water, her kennel, toys and a pee-pad. Other than that she roams the house when were home. We take her outside at appropriate times and she will do her business, but will come inside and do it almost immediately again in the house!

For example, she will pee outside, come in, hide somewhere, and immediately poop. Or vice versa. It's very frustrating.

We don't know what else to do...we've done what has worked for every other one of our dogs. This is the only one giving us problems.

Any help please?? It would be SO appreciated!!
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Its sounds like you need to supervise her at all times, and if you can't, then she needs to be crated or in her safe space. Go back to treating her like a puppy you just brought home.

Little dogs can be harder to train because it is easier for them to go under or behind furniture to potty where we cant see. It then becomes a habit that is hard to break.

The treats and praise for going out are great! Do it eveytime she goes outside.

But taking her back to an accident after the fact and telling her "bad" really isn't going to work. You have 3 seconds or less to correct a behavior! If you do it after the fact, the dog is not going to associate the "no" with their action.

With that in mind, I would suggest that you start to tether her to you (leash hooked to your belt) so that she is always with you. This way you will know when she has to go. It will also prevent her from sneeking off.

Also take her for a brisk walk at potty times. It helps to get things moving!

Clean all of the areas she potties with an enzyme based cleaner, if you haven't already! A dog's nose is much more sensitive than a human's. Just because you can't smell it doesn't mean she can't. The scent might be telling her that she should be going potty inside.

Get her on a regular schedule if she isn't already on one. Feed her at the same times everyday. That will allow you to know when she should need to go potty!

Take her out every hour (when you're home) for a week. Mark down the times she goes potty. You should be able to see a pattern.

Learn her signals! Not every dog is going to go to the door and ask to go out. Most have different signals. For example, my pug will either ring a bell or scratch at the door. My Min Pin will race between me and the door. One of my pekes will just stare at me, and the other will just quietly head towards the kitchen door and sit on the mat.

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I forgot to mention you should limit her access to the home. Block off rooms and other areas by colsing doors and putting up baby gates. Go ito Walmart or target and buy the gates in the baby department. They should be around $12. They are much cheaper then the gates in the pet stores.



Also read this thread! Its really great.

http://www.dogforum.com/housebreakin...-how-tos-2135/

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Thank you so much!
I will be sure to show my family your advice, and hopefully we can all apply this to house-break our baby. lol

And recently we have started to block off rooms where she tends to hide and potty. She has no access to any other room in our house except her room, the kitchen, and the living room. Which we are pretty much there all the time anyway.

So now we just have to work on schedules. We usually just keep her food and water down throughout the day so she can eat and drink as she pleases. I guess this isn't a good thing, huh? lol I can see why. We don't know when she drinks or eats,therefore, not knowing when to walk her!
So that will be the first thing we do.

Thanks again for the tips!
I'll let you know how it goes!
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And recently we have started to block off rooms where she tends to hide and potty. She has no access to any other room in our house except her room, the kitchen, and the living room. Which we are pretty much there all the time anyway.
I would restrict her even more at first. If you are in the kitchen, she goes in the kitchen, etc. IF this is possible that is. Otherwise keep up with giving her little space to go and try to always have her in site. I have 2 chihuahuas and they are horrible about going to the bathroom behind our backs so they are not allowed to be anywhere out of side unless its outside or in their crate.

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So now we just have to work on schedules. We usually just keep her food and water down throughout the day so she can eat and drink as she pleases. I guess this isn't a good thing, huh? lol I can see why. We don't know when she drinks or eats,therefore, not knowing when to walk her!
So that will be the first thing we do.
We live in a very warm state so water is down constantly. Food however is scheduled which does help for #2! I don't think leaving the water down is bad just pay attention to when you see/hear her drink.

Otherwise what has been said with positive reinforcement for going outside it the best thing to do. Do NOT correct her at all. When we first got the chi's I corrected, then realized this just caused them to not want to go potty at all in front of me for fear that I would correct them. Instead simply pick her up, put her outside and give her a cue, we use "go potty" and when she does go, lots of treats and praise are best GL
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thanks again for the reply!

We too live in a warm state..Texas. So we'll leave water down. But how often should we put food down? We've never had to put our dogs on an eating schedule, so this is all new! lol like I've said, we've never had a problem house-breaking our puppies, but for some reason she has given us so much trouble for these 4 years.

She's fully grown obviously and weighs 6 pounds. So I guess twice a day, put her food down?

And I think what we'll start to do is just SUPERVISE like crazy. It's mainly me at home with her because of college, so when I'm on my computer doing work, or in my room, she will be on a leash so I can watch her.

Other than that, it's just frustrating because when she DOES go outside and use the bathroom, we give her a little bone treat, and of course praise her verbally and physically....yet she will make a mess somewhere in the house just minutes later! What is the reason for that? Why won't she do both needs outside? She will usually just do one and run back to the door wanting to go inside. We will even pick her up and put her back on the grass but she will not go. She just runs right back to the door.
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thanks again for the reply!

We too live in a warm state..Texas. So we'll leave water down. But how often should we put food down? We've never had to put our dogs on an eating schedule, so this is all new! lol like I've said, we've never had a problem house-breaking our puppies, but for some reason she has given us so much trouble for these 4 years.

She's fully grown obviously and weighs 6 pounds. So I guess twice a day, put her food down?

And I think what we'll start to do is just SUPERVISE like crazy. It's mainly me at home with her because of college, so when I'm on my computer doing work, or in my room, she will be on a leash so I can watch her.

Other than that, it's just frustrating because when she DOES go outside and use the bathroom, we give her a little bone treat, and of course praise her verbally and physically....yet she will make a mess somewhere in the house just minutes later! What is the reason for that? Why won't she do both needs outside? She will usually just do one and run back to the door wanting to go inside. We will even pick her up and put her back on the grass but she will not go. She just runs right back to the door.
I would feed her 2 times a day. And you can restrict water as far as amount goes, like just barely fill her water bowl and check it hourly or so. Also put her out as soon as she awakes from a nap or anything.

As for her going one outside then coming in and doing the other business, this could be because once she does one she is playing and then comes in and settles down and has to go. I had to simply say yes to one of the chihuahuas when she pee'd then ignore her until she poo'd then praise and give treats. You could try this and then play with her after she has done both. Try and pay attention to when she goes #2, some dogs only do it after each meal and some do it randomly throughout the day. Once you notice her schedule you can better manage that part
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i would stop telling her she is bad when she goes in the house, instead take a treat out with you and praise and reward her for going in the right place. not a lot of dogs are keen enough on praise for it to be a strong enough reward... and as has been mentioned, supervise her constantly in the house.

you may even want to put her on a potty schedule for a while so that you can take advantage of every opportunity to reward her for going outside, take her out every 20 min and give her a chance to go.... when she does say "yes" in a happy voice and give her a yummy treat. when she goes in the house, quietly clean it up without a word to her, and use an enzyme cleaner. do not allow her to be unsupervised in any room. plan on this taking about 3 months to build a good reinforcement history for her. and again, completely stop telling her she is bad, this is likely making her want to hide from you when she goes, which will make rewarding her more difficult.

oh and check out this thread:
http://www.dogforum.com/housebreakin...-how-tos-2135/
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Other than that, it's just frustrating because when she DOES go outside and use the bathroom, we give her a little bone treat, and of course praise her verbally and physically....yet she will make a mess somewhere in the house just minutes later! What is the reason for that? Why won't she do both needs outside? She will usually just do one and run back to the door wanting to go inside. We will even pick her up and put her back on the grass but she will not go. She just runs right back to the door.
Great advice from everyone else! I think the only thing that may not have been mentioned is if she does go outside, then minutes later inside, you can also put her in her crate or supervise for a few minutes when you come back in, then take her right back out, or just wait longer outside if she is going twice consistently (or both).
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Great advice-hopefully all of this helps! Keep us posted
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