6month old lab sneaks downstairs to pee/poop

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Old 02-25-2017, 10:43 PM
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6month old lab sneaks downstairs to pee/poop

So we thought Finn (6month old male) lab mix was housetrained but within the last two weeks, he is sneaking downstairs (off limits to dogs but not gated in any way) and pooping and peeing on the carpet. He's getting to be a big dog now so these are NOT easy cleanups.

He gets an hour walk in the morning and an hour walk at night, playtime with our other 11month old all day. They stay in a heated kennel with outdoor yard access during days when we are not home but they are inside with us from about 4:00pm- all night and all day on the weekends. Kind of a busy household and we thought he was housetrained so I guess we haven't been keeping a strict eye on him at all times, but the dog is 6months old sheesh, we thought he was trained. I can't figure out even when he's going down there, just that it's happening while we are actually with him in the house, not during the night when everyone is asleep. This JUST happened.

I don't know how to train him to tell us when he needs to go out and I don't understand why he sneaks downstairs to do it. I always praise him when he goes outside, but I haven't been able to catch him in the act inside so I haven't been able to reprimand him. I'm not sure if its because its winter here and cold he doesn't want to go outside? We let them out every 45min to an hour so there's no way he can't hold it. He is just choosing to go inside rather than outside. This dog is on my last dang nerve, any advice is appreciated.
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Old 03-16-2017, 02:51 AM
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How do you know it's Finn toileting in the house?
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Seems like the simplest way to fix this would be to add a baby gate.

As for learning to signal a need to go outside I suspect the current signal is heading down stairs.

If I were trying to get a signal to form I would start by putting potty on cue, I use get busy and get pooping. To do this you take the dog out at a normal potty time, mornings would be perfect, and say the appropriate word as they squat, lift etc... then say 'yes' or otherwise mark as soon as they finish and reward with a really high value treat.

Once that cue became reliable I would choose a behavior the dog already gives like; lies down at door. The moment that behavior happens take the dog out and cue for a potty break, reward for potty or return inside after 2 minutes and repeat when the behavior occurs again.

Hope this helps, potty training can be so frustrating!
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:36 AM
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Oh, also; regarding reprimands. They are more likely to cause your dog to go find somewhere out of your sight to go than teach him not to go in the house.

If you're interested as to why, this is a good post Fallout from Use of Aversiveseileenanddogs
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There is also a good chance when you let both dogs out together he is way more interested in playing than he is interested in relieving himself. I know my BC will be giving me her "I need to go out" signal, but if my other dog goes out too, she wants to chase/play and forgets to go.

Also, he might be giving you a subtle signal. For example, neither one of my dogs bark. My Aussie stares at me. As in I look up from what I'm doing and he's boring holes into my head. My BC does a little hop.

Please keep in mind, if he's being doing well with house training and all of a sudden took a massive step backwards, there could be health issues at play. A UTI or upset tummy. It isn't a bad idea to mention this to your vet.
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Both of my dogs have weird little cues for needing to go out. Our chow mix sits on our feet, and our border collie/lab stares and makes a cooing sound. If we missed the BC/lab's cues, sure enough he would go pee on the rug on the 2nd floor. This only happened three times when we first brought him home.

We ended up getting potty bells for our door for when our dogs want to go out. It didn't take long for either of our dogs to learn that they shake the bells and I will take them out. Then when we come back in, I give them a treat but only if they go potty. It sounds kinda silly, and my husband made fun of me when I bought them, but they work. Haven't had any accidents and they are loud enough I can hear them pretty much where ever I am in the house.
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This lady could be able to help you, she writes dog training tips each week and is a really good dog trainer.
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