"squiggles" continued.......

tonisaysss

yes, but they make associations.

just like you walking into kitchen or eating at the dinner table = food.

if peeing = being scolded, crated, anything they dislike, etc, they will avoid doing it when their owner is not around. hence why some dogs often eat their feces in the house and the owner never knows about it.

i'm not some "positive only!" nazi, but it works great in very young puppies when it comes to potty-training.

fawkese1

making associations is not the same as understanding right from wrong the difference in wording here may seem small, but imo... a lot of bad training comes from a human assumption that the dog "knows" or can be taught to know this ( a lot of time is wasted with this as well) by saying it implies that the dog understands that he isn't supposed to do this because it is wrong... but since dogs don't understand right and wrong... this isn't correct...

i don't disagree with most of this... and i absolutely do not encourage using any sort of aversive while potty training...
i suppose you may say that i am *shrugs*
i prefer to use the least amount of intimidation and pain in my training as i possibly can... i have trained with corrections, but i find that i prefer not to and i find positive methods to be more effective, that applies to almost all training, not just potty-training.

Criosphynx

did I just get called a nazi?

tonisaysss

i guess i had forgotten that i said the dog "knows" instead of "associates" in my initial post. i did not intend on arguing semantics -- sorry. you know what i mean now, however.

i practice positive reinforcement with both of my dogs, but i will not argue against other training methods. that's all i meant.

fawkese1

that's ok... like i said, i find that this difference makes a huge impact on how people train their dogs.... that's the only reason i disputed it...

no worries here either... lots of the members here use PR methods tho

Elocin87

You've probably heard this but puppies are like babies; you can't leave them unsupervised until they are 100% potty trained and have learned to not chew everything unless you want to find a surprise. If you have to go check on your daughter you may want to take your dog with you or put him somewhere secure.
Also you'll probably want to use a pet odor remover on your floor to discourage him from peeing on the same spot again. It's not fun to find that your dog has peed all over the carpet especially if you find out by stepping in it while wearing only socks (that was probably my fault).

Dawnben

[quote=Shauna;31558]As I posted before, my pup, who's now 11 weeks, pees in "squiggles" (that's the best way to describe it) all over the carpet/floor even though there's really no reason. He's not fully potty trained, but he can hold it for long periods of time and I take him out every 15 minutes still.

This is not a dachshund is it? My cousins dog still does this and he is 3 years old. When we talked about it I told her the same thing I had never seen a adult dog do this, take the dog to a vet. After 2 visits and a lot of tests no answers. The vet said there is nothing medically wrong . (This does not mean you should not take yours to the vet.) Some how I started to think they always rushed him to potty so he never completely emptied his bladder. If you take him out every 15 minutes how do you know he can hold it? Just wondering.