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Old 10-06-2012, 07:22 PM
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Hi. My papillon puppy, Ziggy Stardust, is going on nine weeks old. Both his parents have perky ears, and his two sisters ears' were perked by eight weeks old. Is it normal for papillon puppies ears to perk up later than nine weeks?

Here are a few pictures of the little monster.








Sorry if they are a bit big.
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I am completely speaking from GSD experience, but they can go up and down or stay completely down until teething is finished. In the old days I saw ears taped at 10 12 weeks old and I just read from a pretty reliable source that you shouldn't bother until teething is finished. I'm sure someone else will answer but if not call your/a breeder or ask your vet the next time you are getting shots. Again I am speaking from a different breed, but taping them is very easy, if it needs to be done and is that important to you LOL.
As for the pics, bigger is always better LOL, He's adorable and I would care less if those ears stayed floppy, don't have to clean them as often LOL.
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Judging by the last pic, as I relooked at them, that right ear is gonna be half up within the week I bet
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Let me ask you this? If your pups ears did not stand up, will you still not love your pup? I ask this because in some litters it is not uncommon to have a phalene (Dropped ears variation of Papillon) in the same litter with papillons (up eared variation) But both are considered the same breed. the Papillon was once all down ears and one day, a few litters had the up eared version pop out and breeders started to breed that more then the Phalene variation
(Thus the name Papillon was given to the up eared variation). at that time they were called Dwarf Spaniel or contenintal toy spaniel.

It is also possible that somewhere in the heritage of your pup, there was a phalene bred to a papillon. Maybe a great great grand parent or somewhere higher. Non the less, up ears or not, it is still a purebred. If by year 1 the ears don't come up, I'm going to say you have a phalene.
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As Shawsea said, it does kind of flip flop thru teething. Usually by 4 months a scottie will have prick ears but it flip flops for a little bit and they usually don't go up at the same time. Your pup has a lot of hair on the back of the ears which will also weigh it down and made it take longer. I have read they will prick earlier with good nutrition...then again some dogs just never prick up. I have read about people using cardboard inserts to help a dog with weaker ear cartilage, but that's a last ditch effort and not something I'd try at this age. And before anyone says it's cruel to do that, I've never done it and it can help the dog from having damp moist ears so there are benefits beyond cosmetics.
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You know who would be a good person to ask if you are afraid to ask the breeder you got the pup from. Laurelin. She has a pack of papillons and knows more about them then us. She's very helpful and friendly.
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Thanks guys. Well, he hit nine weeks old yesterday and his ears look a little more 'perky' to me. Not up yet, but I can see a difference from a week ago. I will try to get a good picture of him later and post it here.
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I have only taped ears on two shepherds, lucky I guess, a long time ago when it was common practice, and I wouldn't say it seemed to effect the dog, so I don't think it was cruel, but who knows. As for results, one worked perfectly, but maybe it really wasn't necessary to begin with, my other shep looked like he was wearing a baseball cap for the rest of his life lol, and honestly never changed my love for the dog in the least and now when my family reminice we remember those ears fondly right away :-)
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Natenqen is right on the mark of what I thought too about your pupppy being a Phalene, which, like was said, is a Papillon with droopy ears vs the high upright butterfly ears. Either way...Ziggy is precious!!!!
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Here are some pics tonight of Ziggy at 10 1/2 weeks. Ears are definitely "bouncy" now and when he tilts his head slightly up, his ears temporarily stand up on their own.









What do you guys think? I've read that typically papillon ears are up by 9 weeks, but I know that my mom's rat terriers ears didn't perk up until he was three months old, and my ACD mix's ears took even slightly longer than that to stand up.
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