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Old 06-25-2010, 12:59 AM
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As someone who's trolled the site and a fellow new puppy owner I can sympathize with the OP. It's sad that because of responses that really add no value say "you guys weren't ready for a puppy" it intimidates others (say myself) from seeking advice or truly speaking my mind for fear of these "short" responses. My humble opinion but sorry I don't agree with everyone else chiming in when in short it was a rude response (regardless of the one line apology you put at the end).

Again, MY opinion.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:31 AM
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As someone who's trolled the site and a fellow new puppy owner I can sympathize with the OP. It's sad that because of responses that really add no value say "you guys weren't ready for a puppy" it intimidates others (say myself) from seeking advice or truly speaking my mind for fear of these "short" responses. My humble opinion but sorry I don't agree with everyone else chiming in when in short it was a rude response (regardless of the one line apology you put at the end).

Again, MY opinion.
that last line there explains everything though. this is an open forum. while you have people giving the best advice they can, youre going to get THEIR OPINIONS. some people just cant handle a forum like this because they cant take the good with the bad and suck it up and learn. there was a lot of good advice given in this thread, as well as some opinions. if hearing someones honest opinion makes them feel threatened so bad that they cant ask a question, then they should seek advice from someone like a trainer, whos paid to tell them only good happy things that they want to hear.... but even then, many of them will include their personal opinions because typically its in the best interest of the dog.
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:53 PM
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that last line there explains everything though. this is an open forum. while you have people giving the best advice they can, youre going to get THEIR OPINIONS. some people just cant handle a forum like this because they cant take the good with the bad and suck it up and learn. there was a lot of good advice given in this thread, as well as some opinions. if hearing someones honest opinion makes them feel threatened so bad that they cant ask a question, then they should seek advice from someone like a trainer, whos paid to tell them only good happy things that they want to hear.... but even then, many of them will include their personal opinions because typically its in the best interest of the dog.
thank you GreatDaneMom... that is definitely something that needed to be said...

now... hopefully we've gotten this part of the thread settled now everyone...
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:25 PM
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Welcome!

I want to ditto the training advice And also-your dog is doing FANTASTIC for such a young pup.
There is no magic wand and some things take time, so I want to offer a shoulder and say 'these things can take time, your dog is doing GREAT, and so are you' And KUDOs on adopting!!

Definitely since you have the time and resources, it may be worth seeing a trainer=even just for an outside opinion. And training in classes offers a GREAT oppurtunity for socializing too.

But I have to say your totally on the right track and doing well, and no need to worry-definitely work to be done, but things are going well

The outdoorsy thing will come with experience, some dogs just aren't adventurous. I was REALLY disappointed when our newly adopted dog just 'suffered through' camping-which is my big enjoyment. But he got over that and now is zealous for it

And I think-take a step back and realize that AT MOST this dog has the intelligence of a two year old child. He's not trying to trick you, be mean, or disobey. Really and truly, if something is wrong-it's on your end. Either you are being confusing or not reinforcing enough-so remember patience and cooling off is the right way to go. We often subscribe way too much intelligence to our dogs-because they seem to earn it. But really your dealing with intellectually less then a two year old, and less then a monkey, and your not only speaking another language, but you are doing so with your body movements (primate vs. canine)-they are incredible-but we need to cut some slack. It can be frustrating-particularly when your partner has different ideas then you-but you'll get there
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As someone who's trolled the site and a fellow new puppy owner I can sympathize with the OP. It's sad that because of responses that really add no value say "you guys weren't ready for a puppy" it intimidates others (say myself) from seeking advice or truly speaking my mind for fear of these "short" responses. My humble opinion but sorry I don't agree with everyone else chiming in when in short it was a rude response (regardless of the one line apology you put at the end).

Again, MY opinion.

its not the questions. We answer questions like this so often it numbs the mind...I think its the lack of being able to bond with the dog for doing normal doggy things that hit nerves with people. Not the questions. Just an observation.

also there was gobs of helpful advice in many of the posts. Keep in mind no one here is paid, or oblilgated to help. If som'one always wants a rainbows and kittens type response (keep in mind I don't feel any of the responses here were harsh) then one should hire a trainer who is paid for their time.

there are always trainers available, when one choses to take the free route, like a discussion forum, vs som'one who is paid to tell them what they want to hear, they may just get som'thing even more valueable; Honesty

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Are things getting any better for you? I know that you and I were having similar issues and I was thinking about you this morning as Gracie and I had a little stand-off (I won ).

Lots of good thoughts heading your way...hopefully things are going better.
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It's not necessary to condescend when someone comes asking for advice. There's a difference between giving an opinion based on experience and condescending.

I know pups have accidents, but for him to regress to the point you described seems abnormal to me. Maybe he has a UTI. If he's sick it could also explain him not wanting to leave the house, etc. I'd get him checked out just to be sure. A few days of antibiotics could fix most of these problems if that's what's going on.

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As someone who's trolled the site and a fellow new puppy owner I can sympathize with the OP. It's sad that because of responses that really add no value say "you guys weren't ready for a puppy" it intimidates others (say myself) from seeking advice or truly speaking my mind for fear of these "short" responses. My humble opinion but sorry I don't agree with everyone else chiming in when in short it was a rude response (regardless of the one line apology you put at the end).

Again, MY opinion.

I have to say this brings back soo much memories of when I first started out here. Enzo, like you, when I posted something that I thought was fun ended up (in my opinion) turning out bad, but what I failed to see was I was taking it in too much and making a big deal of it. (This I have a hard time with still.) Many times when I post something, I hesitate to hit the post button because I know how much I may not like what I hear. But you know what? It doesn't stop me from doing it and yes I do get stuff I don't want to hear, but I have learned (at least I think I have) to not always ask for the rainbows.

Now as for the topic of the o/p. I feel you guys. I know you think they are being rude but really they are not. I went threw this my first time and it took a lot for me to realize I'm the one who is making such a big deal of how people on this forum were reacting. (Trust me, the advices you got here were nothing compared to some other forums I have been lurking on.) This forum is much more gentler than most in my opinion.

I know you guys may feel you are being insulted, but you arn't... Trust me I have had the same feelings you guys had when I first posted. It was hard for me to swallow that it wasn't what I wanted to hear, but I did it and realized they are giving me advice/suggestions like I've asked. Even now, I still get afraid to post in posts, but I do it anyways. And you guys should take a look at the advices. H*** I just found out that I thought my 13 year old dog knew the basic commands only to find out he only knew those commands in one area and the same commands in the same order. I've even posted about it and I knew I wasn't going to like some of the things that will probably come up, but I accept it and take into thought about what others have suggested. I thought one of the posts I got back was rude, but I did not make a big deal about it like I have in the past. (At least I think I didn't.) The others are right, if I wanted to hear peaches n cream or sugar coated, I might as well hire a trainer who is paid to let me here what I want. Trust me, everyone's bark is worse than their bite. No one will bite you here. So, now that that's over,

how's everything so far? Oh yeah and welcome to the forum. Please keep us updated and as others have posted, what are you doing? What techneques are you doing? Give us some detail about what you are doing to improve things and I also suggest that you do get him to the vet if these behaviors are new, as someone suggested, it could easily be sick.

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