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Old 07-15-2010, 08:27 PM
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Why is dog aggressive only when on leash?

It sounds wierd for me to use the word aggressive since I don't consider my dog an aggressive dog but I don't know how else to describe it. Here's what happened tonight at the dog park with my 4 year old Mini Schnauzer:

-On our way back to car, Simon was on leash and as we were leaving along the path, he encountered two dogs (separate encounters) that were walking with their owners on leash, towards the park. He loves other dogs so always wants to say hello. Both times he got "aggressive" with the other dog, growling and hopping when he didn't like the other dog's quick movements. With the second dog they even started barking and growling really nasty and started lunging for each other. We pulled the dogs away and the other owner said to me "its because they are both on a leash" to which I agreed. But I don't understand why?


A similar thing happened when were still inside the park. Simon was trying to pee and another dog was starting to be a bit of a pest and was standing over Simon, kinda intimidating him and not letting him have peace to pee. Simon kept walking away to get some space and the dog kept at his side, hovering over him (it was a banned breed and did not have a muzzle on -I live in Ontario-but that's another story). I didn't like the way things were going escpecially since the other owner was not calling his dog off. So I called Simon to me and put his leash on so that we could leave. Well, the other dog kept at Simon, pestering him and Simon then started growling and lunging back. He didn't do this when he was not on the leash.

He never gets aggressive with dogs when he is off leash or in the dog park. Why the aggression when he is on the leash?

He's also the type of dog to pull on the leash during walks (I'm still doing my research on how best to knock him of the habit) and goes nuts when he sees other dogs during walks. By nuts meaning he gets all vocal and tries to walk in the direction of the dog if its on the other side of the street or lunges towards it if its coming his way. Another bad habit we have to rid him of. I'm not sure if these last two bits help with the on leash aggression but I thought they might be clues.

I'd appreciate if anyone could shed some light on this "aggressive while on leash" business or point me in the right direction of resources to read.

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This link covers it basically. If you have specific questions after reading, let us know

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Old 07-15-2010, 08:49 PM
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That was a good read. I've read about that technique before and even went for a one one one session with a trainer years back to try to learn how to train Simon not to freak out when he sees other dogs.

I understand the theory and how to start rewarding the dog when it is unreactive; and the little by little letting the dog get closer and closer to the other dog. But I find that with Simon, its either he hasn't noticed the other dog yet and is thus unreactive or he does see the other dog and reacts. It seems that there is no point where he sees a dog in the distance but becauase it is far off he doesn't react yet. So how would I adjust the training method in this case?

Also, would it be the same training method for on leash aggression? In other words, if I can train him to not react to other dogs along a daily walk, he'll also learn not to freak out while on the leash going in/out of the dog park?
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. But I find that with Simon, its either he hasn't noticed the other dog yet and is thus unreactive or he does see the other dog and reacts. It seems that there is no point where he sees a dog in the distance but becauase it is far off he doesn't react yet. So how would I adjust the training method in this case?
mine was similar, I found that using dogs he could not see (behind barriers/fences) was a good starting point. Barking dogs at a distance also is a good tool to use. I don't know how your dog park is set up, but I had to literally stand a soccer field away by ours, and use the area to create distance.

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Also, would it be the same training method for on leash aggression? In other words, if I can train him to not react to other dogs along a daily walk, he'll also learn not to freak out while on the leash going in/out of the dog park
yes. But is alot more work/harder, it would involve many trips there with nothing but training involved, or training, and then breaks and then play.

Not what you probably want to hear, but it will take a decent amount of time to teach a reactive dog to walk up to a dog park on a leash and be reliable.... because there are so many criteria involved to countercondition him to. Do you clicker train at all or are you familiar with it?
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Thanks for your reply. I am familiar with clicker training but have never used it with Simon. I just wasn't interested in trying it when he was a pup.

My biggest challenge right now is training him period. My long term goals are loose leash walking, ending the on leash aggression, and not freaking out when he sees other dogs. Thing is that he lives with me only part time and with my folks part time. Long story made short is that we moved into a new house and until the construction is done in the area and we are allowed to put a fence up, my parents have offered to take him. He keeps their 15 year old Mini Schnauzer company

I guess that it would be pointless to train him while I have him and then send him back to my parents whom wouldn't keep training him. Not that their not willing, just that I'm picky and would want to make sure they are doing it right. Also, they have less patience.
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i don't think it would be pointless at all... imo, i'm sure that he would love any sort of mental stimulation you could do for him, and when you could do it... you could definitely work on lots of stuff with him now, when ever you get the chance, and it will make a difference for you... clicker training tends to speed up the learning process quite a bit, so you might be surprised at all the stuff you can accomplish in a short amount of time... AND even if you don't learn much, you can develop learning skills that will help him to learn much faster when you do get serious about training...

as far as loose leash walking, check out this thread

the last post on there has a great link to a video with a really helpful technique that i think will help you if your dog is reactive... (mine is too, and it has helped me )
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Agree-not pointless at all. I'd go for it
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